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Joplin alternative needed (lemmy.zip)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by jaykay@lemmy.zip to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Hi guys! I think I'm over Joplin. Don't get me wrong, it's simple, it works, but… why is it Postgres db…. I have the server on a small box with like 250 GB of space and backing it up with kopia to Backblaze with free 10 GB, so I'm a bit storage cautious.

With each snapshot, it seems like a good chunk of the database changes, even when I don't use Joplin that day. That results in kopia backing up those changed files, and backups keep growing. Right now the Joplin database is like 200Mb, BUT when I export the notes from the app… all of them weigh 2Mb… including images. Yes there is versioning of notes, but they shouldn't be that big after one-two months lol.

I know I know, I'm being a bit weird about it, but I'm getting daily notifications about backups and I see how they grow each day.

Anyway, do you have any alternatives that have an app on iOS and on Linux? Or should I just use Apple Notes in the browser? Thanks

EDIT: The answer was easier than I thought. Just don’t back it up, it’s synced which means each device has a copy of it anyway so there is not really need for it, thanks @vvv@programming.dev !

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[–] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm going to start developing my own alternative, is there any features that you really need/want?

I was planning on making this self hosted via docker with the option to save to Google drive.

https://github.com/ssebs/PadPal-Server

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Here's what I would be looking for;

  • Decent mobile app (more than happy to pay for this if it's a one time fee)
  • Bonus for a OneNote / Evernote style Android widget. Being able to scroll through and quickly select from my most recent notes in the OneNote widget is really helpful.
  • WYSIWYG editor on mobile and desktop (why in God's name does every Foss notes app insist I use a markdown language?) with bullet points, numbered lists, bold, italic, underline, strikethrough, and headings.
  • Checklists (as in, ability to add checkboxes to notes)
  • Ability to create an arbitrarily deep folder structure
  • Tags would be nice
  • Import from popular apps like OneNote, Evernote, or Joplin is basically essential at this point. A lot of us have way too fucking many notes to move by hand.
[–] DichotoDeezNutz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Most of those are on the to-do list! I definitely like the Google keep style widget but want better UX when typing out bullet lists.

Thanks for the suggestions

[–] chrisg@aus.social 5 points 2 years ago

@DichotoDeezNutz @jaykay Saving to a network drive _OTHER_THAN_ proprietary US mega corporations would be essential for me (eg SFTP, WEBDAV)

A mobile client is vital. I use mobile devices 95%

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Please don’t follow joplins folder/notes view. It’s so stupid that folders and notes are in different panels on the left. Just make it a normal list.

I like joplin for its simplicity. No bells and whistles like obsidian.

Docker container would be awesome, but I don’t care for Google drive personally :) If you make the notes folder a volume I can bind to that would be great, as long as they’re normal files haha