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[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Really need to hand it off to other makers. VW is just scandal. It lies on its emissions reports. Has a history of abusing workers. All round a shell of it's former self

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, VW has never strayed far from their roots.

They've always been just a little scummy on the business practices side of things. More than a little scummy during WW2...

They do sometimes have good engineering. Which means fuck all in the face of management who want to cut corners and cheat to make more money.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do any companies have morality

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

From what I've seen, some family owned ones do, as they're run for the long term (rather than by CEOs with an average tenure of less than 2 years and who thus are fine with damaging long term prospects for short term profit boosting as its the latter that dictate the size of tbeir bonuses) so don't want to damage the name of the company and sometimes are even run in a way that reflects the owner's morals and principles.

Market listed companies or even private ones with lots of "investors" as owners (such as the bigger startups) almost never have any morality or, in the case of the latter, reflect the typical morality of the kind of people who are good at getting investors, which tends to be the in the area from the "flexible with the truth" salesman all the way to outright fraudster.

Investment nowadays is pretty short term, amoral and fickle, and this ends up indirectly leading to overwhelmingly certain kinds of personalities ending up leading companies and certain management styles being used, both high on the more sociopath end of the spectrum.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I think the bigger a corporation is, the more shitty things it had to do in order to reach that status.
There are some good companies with a moral code, but they'll never become competitive with the big dogs in our current capitalist system.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Volkswagen was literally founded by the Nazi party and Adolf Hitler himself was heavily involved in designing their first car lol.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Half the companies operating in Germany today were started during Hitler's reign, borne out of his policies.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen

It's common knowledge? It's literally the second paragraph in its Wikipedia article. Volkswagen means "the people's car" and was founded so that people in Germany could afford a car.

[–] wikibot@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

Volkswagen (VW; German pronunciation: [ˈfɔlksˌvaːɡn̩] ) is a German automobile manufacturer headquartered in Wolfsburg, Lower Saxony, Germany. Founded in 1937 by the German Labour Front under the Nazi Party and revived into a global brand after World War II by the British Army officer Ivan Hirst, it is known for the iconic Beetle and serves as the flagship brand of the Volkswagen Group, the largest automotive manufacturer by worldwide sales in 2016 and 2017. The group's biggest market is in China, which delivers 40 percent of its sales and profits. Its name is derived from the German-language terms Volk and Wagen, translating to "people's car" when combined.

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[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen

Founded by the German Labour Front, the Nazi party’s national labour organization.

In 1934, with many of the above projects still in development or early stages of production, Adolf Hitler became involved, ordering the production of a basic vehicle capable of transporting two adults and three children at 100 km/h (62 mph). He wanted a car every German family would be able to afford.

It soon became apparent that private industry could not turn out a car for only 990 ℛ︁ℳ︁. Thus, Hitler chose to sponsor an all-new, state-owned factory using Ferdinand Porsche's design (with some of Hitler's design suggestions, including an air-cooled engine so nothing could freeze).

The beetle having a rear mounted air cooled engine was Hitler’s design.

[–] wikibot@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

Volkswagen (VW; German pronunciation: [ˈfɔlksˌvaːɡn̩] ) is a German automobile manufacturer headquartered in Wolfsburg, Lower Saxony, Germany. Founded in 1937 by the German Labour Front under the Nazi Party and revived into a global brand after World War II by the British Army officer Ivan Hirst, it is known for the iconic Beetle and serves as the flagship brand of the Volkswagen Group, the largest automotive manufacturer by worldwide sales in 2016 and 2017. The group's biggest market is in China, which delivers 40 percent of its sales and profits. Its name is derived from the German-language terms Volk and Wagen, translating to "people's car" when combined.

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