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Here's what telegram's founder say about Whatsapp's privacy (graph.org)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by clot27@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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This is an article written by telegram's founder and CEO Pavel Durov in 2019 on "Why whatsapp will never be secure". Your thoughts?

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[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What a load of hipocrisy. The dude uses unauthenticated DH for his apps "secret chats", which a bored student with a laptop can MITM in seconds. Other chats use just TLS, meaning they get to read EVERYTHING.

Use Signal, people.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

which a bored student with a laptop can MITM in seconds

No, how can a bored student breach e2ee in seconds? note that no such cases have been reported by any telegram user so far.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because the DH is unauthenticated, as I already said. Users can't report it because there is no way to tell for them.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Users can’t report it because there is no way to tell for them

Atleast the one who breached can tell? no telegram users data have been seen on dark web yet, no person/org have claimed to get any vulnerability in their system. Also if its that easy to breach why govt's keep banning telegram for not giving them userdata? despite telegram is the biggest app where most terrorist orgs operate, hub of piracy and illegal things, you can call it "public" darkweb.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if its that easy to breach why govt’s keep banning telegram for not giving them userdata

Same reason they ask Apple for backdoors even though they crack iPhones routinely. It's about legal precedent.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

They dont ban apple tho

[–] Rose@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The data is available. See this article - it's a Google link.

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Check stories about russian journalists..

I have some friends working in the police, many years they showed me how they can read messages of like anyone on telegram I was trying to tell people to stop using telegram for years, but now at least therecs some conversation is going on because of the journalists

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago

Signal is based in the United States, enjoy having CIA and NSA reading all your messages.