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Al Gore To Leave Apple Board After 21-Year Run; Company Reveals CEO Tim Cook’s Pay Dropped 36% In 2023 After Shareholder Pressure::Former Vice President Al Gore will exit Apple's board of directors, the company said in an SEC filing that also revealed a pay drop for CEO Tim Cook.

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[–] skyline385@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Is 8GB RAM laptop even relevant to this discussion? You seem to be going off on the “Apple doesn’t provide enough RAM with their base models” rant which is a completely different discussion. Regarding soldering the SSD, many manufacturers do it and it’s certainly not good practice for the environment.

I never said Apple is the greenest company in existence but they are also not the worst like the original company implied and they are certainly not forcing early retirement of their products. On the contrary they are doing the opposite by providing software support even 5-6 years after purchase.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

8GB laptops are pretty much ewaste outside of Chromebooks. That's why it's relevant to the "green" discussion

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

no, not that many companies solder the SSD. The RAM? yeah, it's widespread now. But you can still find laptops with upgradeable RAM. The SSD has been replaceable in most laptops.

And yes, the 8GB RAM is very relevant to the discussion, because for the same price every other manufacturer is offering at the very least 16GB, in most cases 32GB and in some 64GB.

8GB macbooks will be rendered obsolete way sooner than 16GB laptops. That's ewaste for you.

they are also not the worst

I'd argue that they are very close to that title, given their marketshare.

Sure, you have years of software support. Great. Did the hardware survive that long? Do you need any repair? Because they won't allow third party spare parts so it would be a shame if you needed one.

Also, the software support desktop, Linux has not a limited amount of years of support, it could revive perfectly good hardware that Apple doesn't support anymore and they deliberately make it difficult to install.