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Rep. Joe Morelle, D.-N.Y., appeared with a New Jersey high school victim of nonconsensual sexually explicit deepfakes to discuss a bill stalled in the House.

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[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (35 children)

I'm as suspicious of "think of the children" stuff as anyone here but I don't see how we are fighting for the rights of the people by defending non-consensual deepfake porn impersonation, of children or anyone.

If someone makes deepfake porn of my little cousin or Emma Watson, there's no scenario where this isn't a shitty thing to do to a person, and I don't see how the masses are being oppressed by this being banned. What, do we need to deepfake Joe Biden getting it on to protest against the government?

Not only the harassment of being subjected to something like this seems horrible, it's reasonable to say that people ought to have rights over their own likeness, no? It's not even a matter of journalistic interest because it's something completely made-up.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago (23 children)

The issue is there really is no way to stop it unless you make ai illegal. The cat is already out of the bag. The models and hardware are getting better and faster and cheaper.

How do you suppose you enforce a law like this when people stop even sharing the photos they create, maybe don't even save them themselves, because it's so easy and instant to create more when you want to see them. "Put her face on her body in this position", bam, instant album of photos to jerk off to, then delete them. That's how good and how available these models are getting.

How do you think restrictions on this should, or could, be enforced?

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (21 children)

Nah, making deepfake porn illegal doesn't require making all of AI illegal. As proposed this law would neither apply to candid photography generation nor to entirely imaginary AI porn. As proposed it's targetting those generating and distributing such images rather than the technology itself, and giving victims means to defend themselves against being publicly humilliated.

It could be handled much like any matter of copyright is, that anyone hosting and sharing it must take it down or face the punishment.

Technology allows many things to be done quickly and easily, but whether they are legal and protected is a whole different matter. The models can be as good as they want, as quick as copying a file, it doesn't mean that people won't be sued over it.

It seems a bit questionable to assume that everything that is technologically possible ought to be permitted, no matter who is harmed. And frankly this is much more harmful than any piracy or infringement.

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