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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't like anything Debian based. The package manager always sits at the core of the experience, and it's just a horrible experience. With a bit of manual intervention, you can upgrade an Arch install from 10 years ago. I've never managed to update any Debian based distribution from the previous release. That aside, a lot of what I do relies on newest packages, and having something that's 5 years out of date just isn't for me

[–] waitmarks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have literally never had any upgrade issues on debian that wasn’t something mentioned in release notes(been using it since debian 7). I am guessing you did a lot of things they tell you specifically not to do on this page:

https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly, given the ways shit broke, you'd think that. One of the cases was on a practically fresh install with a few flatpaks, and it was updated exactly as the distro specified it

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Fwiw, I’ve had great results with upgrading Debian derivatives. A machine in my closet has been upgraded from version 8 -> 12 without any major issue. Usually, upgrade problems come from custom or third party software in my experience.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Zorin OS (based off Ubuntu) recently released a wizard to upgrade the OS between major releases. I've not tried it yet.