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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 108 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is always the answer. "How do we solve x in y industry?" Make the fucking corpos responsible for their own asses and it will get fixed. If it costs them more money to be breached they will do everything they can to not allow that.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That, or threaten to nationalize their industry. Corporations *hate * that.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Communications should always be nationalized. It was a mistake letting corporations gatekeep phones and internet.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Infastructure should be nationalized as a whole (roads, rails, water, heating, electricity, waste disposal and so on)

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] WallEx@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

Obviously a typo, nice one

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 0 points 9 months ago

Internet is also communication. works great in North Korea.

[–] drahardja@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

“Externalities” are just expenses that corporations incur that have to be paid by the public.

Make externalities losses again.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It'll also screw over anyone trying to break into the market, ensuring that the big tech companies remain unchallenged indefinitely.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Disagree if you add the three different factors that I added to account for this in my original comment:

As I wrote in my edit, I think the size of fine should be dependent on:

  • size of company

  • the reasonable expectation of security (which would partially attempt to decrease fines for unfixable breaches)

  • the number of unique users affected

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think that's a great starting point for effective legislation.

I also think this could easily be twisted to become yet another artificial barrier to entry.

I don't know what to do with that knowledge...I think you're correct, but I also think there's no way to pass such a law with its spirit intact today

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 1 points 9 months ago

I’ll put the ball in your court.

I’ve completely and irreparably broken up with electoral politics in the United States ever since my tax money started being spent solely on austerity and genocide. It’s about as likely for this to be introduced as a bill as it is for a third party to win a presidential election…ie IMPOSSIBLE.