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[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

It's a good point. Biden's unconditional support for Netanyahu is not helping him at all (even though he seems to be trying to mediate in the background, he's not very successful and the optics are really bad).

But the question is, who else would be a candidate with enough support? He's counting on the incumbent bonus now but I also doubt it's good enough, if "not Trump" is the main thing he has going for him. I don't know US politics well enough to know about any alternatives. Buttigieg maybe?

But another Trump reign would be bad for the whole world order and climate so I really hope that won't happen.

I think a Bernie win would be amazing but I doubt he has enough hardliner support even on the Democratic side.

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Bernie

How about someone who isn't over 80 years old?

[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good point. And a women for a change. Or even a trans woman! That would be amazing! 🏳️‍⚧️

But it is America so this won't happen :'( We can dream.

I like Bernie though, despite his age :)

[–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Being a woman or trans (not sure why you excluded trans men there) isn't a political accomplishment. Yes, it's bad that so many people vote against them just because of their gender, but similarly it's bad to vote for someone just because of their gender

[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think of trans men because they're men and America has already had only male presidents.

Of course it's not the only reason to vote for someone but considering women are just as suitable for the job in general and are 50% of the population and 100% of presidents have been men, it's really about time.

And really 99% of women will be better at the job than Trump.

[–] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh please, don't act like the powers that be responsible for marginalizing women consider trans men to be men. The subtext of the conversation is supporting marginalized groups, and women are just an easy shorthand to that subtext.

No, it's not that it's not the only reason to vote for someone, it's that it's not a reason to vote for someone. Hypothetically if we could create identical clones of a person's mind, with literally the only difference between them being their gender, one doesn't get an extra pat on the back because they're a woman. It "being time" is not an argument to boost someone past their actual accomplishments. What it does show is that there's still a large contingent of the populace that are sexist enough that sex and gender matter to them. When a woman eventually becomes president, it'll be a good marker for when enough of the country sees the genders as equal, not as one needing a handicap to perform equally.

really 99% of women will be better at the job than Trump.

Lmfao you haven't met any maga women then. And there's sadly a lot of them.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Newsom.

Biden doesn't have support based on who he is. If he wins it will only be because people don't want Trump, so anyone else who hasn't pissed off most of the Democrat voter base will do just as well or better. Literally anyone on the street who can say that they aren't supplying bombs for an ongoing genocide.

[–] The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago

Or Jay Inslee from Washington State who isn't running for reelection, or maybe JB Pritzker from Illinois, or (god forbid) another Democrat that doesn't fit the white guy in government mold.

The only reason it feels like there's no alternatives to Biden is that all the alternatives to Biden don't want to spoil the election, there's plenty of good and better choices out there. It's very frustrating.

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't want Newsom as president.

I'm done with him as governor. It's not an all bad policy thing, I view the CPUC in bed with utility providers with unlimited energy rate hikes, as very much a Newsom thing.

Every single CPU Commissioner was appointed by Newsom. Yes it needs Senate approval, but he is the one who chooses who to appoint, and the senate approves it.

PG&E's rate just went up again upon CPUC approval to $0.42/kWh

https://www.pge.com/content/dam/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/residential-electric-rate-plan-pricing.pdf

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not liking his anti-2A stances is my biggest issue with him, because he also clearly see the State as being the only valid entity to enact violence, which is great if Nazis and white supremacist and (proud) racists and theocrats aren't allowed in your government, and not great when that isn't the case (as with the US).

That said, I think he'd be better as POTUS than as a state governor, precisely because his power to enact direct, low-level policy is much more limited, and in the end he's far better than 70%+ of the other potential candidates out there.