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There's also the bit where we have at least two "universe's most special boy/girl" characters upon whom everything hinges repeatedly when the entire point kf the psycho-history concept is that major events like that happen one way or another regardless of the specific details.
Also, "the entirety of psychohistory and the Foundation hinges on us storming X place with guns and explosives in the next fifteen minutes!"
Ugh. Yuck. Hard pass. Go home, Goyer, you're drunk (on the aroma of your own emissions).
That is in the books too. It's called a "Seldon crisis", where the Foundation has only one possible way forward as means of keeping it close to the original plan.
But the Seldon Crises don't depend on the coin toss of whether or not they manage to infiltrate a stronghold and deactivate the thingamajig kajigger in the next fifteen minutes.
It's been a while since I've read them, but as I remember, the entire definition of a crisis is some moment that depends on a coin toss or some individual acting correctly. The books narrate exactly the moments where there can exist some heroes.
They are just calmer than the series.
You say that yet in reality, psychohistory dictates that they WILL be the universes most special people. They aren't mutually exclusive, they're patiently entwined. Not even getting into the latter books and how that shows the truth of it.
Which would be fine if the magic pixie dream girl wasn't insufferable as hell and had a terrible actress.
The needed the mystery to follow Gaal without her being in the story, just a legend they searched the galaxy for.
Honestly dude.. as someone who has read every single asimov book, and the entire foundation series and then read the entirety of the robot series, these books were my lord of the rings. The show is doing something different. I'm willing to wait and see how things go. I mean hari being an immortal consciousness and all is already completely different. I simply enjoy being in the world of the foundation at all.
The only real way I'll probably actually get to see something like the book in a non written way is as a 4x game a la crusader kings, or total war, or Stellaris. Heck or even as an RPG. I just don't think it's easily adaptable for TV or cinemas. For them attempting to do this and weaving in the foundations story is pretty commendable from my perspective and I hope they keep improving the story. Shame about Daneel olivaw.
I have entirely stopped comparing the show to the books because all it would do is frustrate me. Now I just think of it as it's own thing.
I'm OK with salvor because she's an OK character. That red monk girl is really starting to grow on me.
I am very much NOT OK with anything having to do with Gaal, because she seems like a terrible character with a terrible actress.
Haven't seen last night but last week was great specifically because it had 0 Gaal.
Brother Constant is the most engaging character on the show now, and yeah Gaal's a bummer
Gaal: "I hate you, Hari, I don't trust you, you ruined my life, I'm locking you in this computer and not doing anything you say!"
Also Gaal: "Choke me harder, Daddy Seldon!"
Omfg I just spit out my coffee.
I don't believe those are quotes, the first one might be paraphrase, but I can't believe the second one is.
2x03, paraphrased, but surprisingly fitting.
Edit: my bad, think it's 2x02.
I'm not normally triggered by characters like that, but I realized I liked the 2nd half of s1 a lot more because she finally stfu.
Her voice is beyond grating, her reactions don't seem to match her environment, shes a genius/take charge woman who is always crying because shes helpless, and even beyond that she makes me want to stop watching and I don't know why I hate her so much.
Same here, I dropped it in the first episode because I was okay with Gaal Dornick being a woman, but I was not okay with the ridiculous and pointless subplot of she being the only person in her planet how believe in mathematics, what doesn't make any sense in a "globalised" galaxy, and completely changes the subject of the Assimov criticism of the academy. And I think is natural for Assimov tor portray mainly men instead of women since, after all, Foundation was a social critic of Assimov's times, times where was very rare to see a woman in a power place.