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A group of Muslim leaders in swing states are rightly using their electoral power with the #AbandonBiden campaign. They are not so frightened of a Trump presidency that they have allowed themselves to vote for the man who through his proxy Israel has killed some 24,000 people in Gaza and despite phony claims of “working behind the scenes” shows no inclination to change policy and save lives.

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[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the way the public consensus now says the US should act as world police is one hell of a flip. I say stay out of it and that means washing your hands of it and stop selling offensive weapons to a nation in an offensive war. Ukraine is different because they're the ones being attacked.

Biden is fucking up this situation for sure. But he's still infinitely better for the US and the world than Trump.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Israel is a weapons trade partner to the US, their "Iron Dome" system is a perfect complement to the "Patriot" system. Under a rational leader, there is no way the US would "stay out of it", even if it could damage exports to the Trump-era major US arms buyer: Saudi Arabia.

If anything, it's more likely the US would stop supporting Ukraine (almost a given if Trump wins), but even there the US has a vested interest in not letting the war spread to NATO nations that could invoke Article 5, forcing the US to show their hand about whether NATO is a real thing or just a paper tiger, which could damage US's weapon sales to all NATO nations.

For reference, the Ukrainian war has doubled US arms sales to NATO nations, which have reached a level of double the sales to Saudi Arabia.

PS: an ironic thing that's going on with Saudi Arabia, is that Biden has paused arms sales because of their war on Yemen... only to now have the US bomb Yemen because of their attacks on cargo ships.