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[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The ad shows headlines related to Eric Garner, who died after police held him in a chokehold. Police initially confronted Garner for allegedly selling cigarettes illegally.

For real? Using a police brutality tragedy of a POC that is tangentially related to cigarettes to push something you don’t actually give a fuck either way about just to make Biden look bad? I hope voters see right through this as the same disingenuous, cultural war bullshit that republicans always pull because they can’t win on real issues.

Also, I’m no Biden fan, but I hate Big Tobacco even more, so I hope this goes through, and I hope they go after vapes directly marketing to children next. Menthol is all about making it easier to avoid noticing the direct effects of smoking on their body. A company making something dangerous should not be allowed to do that. You want to do it on your own, go ahead! But for a manufacturer, who has a history of shady dealings regarding downplaying the health risks of their products, this should be seen as another example of that. Speaking of shady dealings, I would be shocked if Big Tobacco did not have a direct hand in this ad campaign.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cigarettes themselves began as a "less harmful" way of consuming tobacco, with all the included filters, cough medicine, the messaging about how "smooth" they are, and then menthol as a last twist, all to get people as addicted as possible ("got a sore throat? try a cigarette!"... it will calm your throat while you smoke it, then leave it even more irritated... so maybe you smoke another one).

BTW, menthol cigarettes have been banned in the EU since 2020 (should have been 2016, but whatever). TIL they aren't yet in the US... but then again, guess not much of a surprise there.

[–] Domiku@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Back in 2009, we banned all flavored cigarettes, but there was a specific exception for menthol.

Source, no paywall

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

But for a manufacturer, who has a history of shady dealings regarding downplaying the health risks of their products, this should be seen as another example of that.

Americans are the only ones who overwhelmingly defend possession of guns - a device meant only for violence and killing - as a fundamental right. I have seen so many of them claim that gun prohibition is ineffective, while the rest of the world has put it into practice and proved it works. The American solution to every mass shooting is very predictable - more guns! Big tobacco is mild compared to that (I'm not a fan of tobacco and have never consumed it).

American companies are a different breed - even among the private institutions in the world that pursue profit at any cost. Forget the really harmful ones like gun dealers, big tobacco or the oil industry. Even completely essential ones like the aircraft industry give little value to the lives of ordinary individuals. They would rather see people dead if the cost of litigation isn't as high as putting safety features in. To put it mildly, US is a nightmarish dystopia from those apocalyptic novels.