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[–] Vulwsztyn@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can you explain in a bit more detail what you understand was happening?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 24 points 10 months ago

Gitlab has a backend, which runs on a server, and a frontend, which runs in all the user's browsers. When the user does anything it sends some network requests to the backend in order to save the changes the user has made, send the necessary emails or create a session, etc.

The thing with this architecture is the backend and frontend are effectively separate apps. Also as the frontend is running remotely on the attacker's computer the attacker can change it to behave however they want. The backend can't trust the frontend to "do the right thing", ever. The backend needs to assume the frontend will do every bad and silly thing possible, and treat anything coming from the frontend with maximum suspicion.

So you simply can't allow the frontend code to provide a list of email addresses to send an email to, because it'll allow the attacker to send emails to anywhere. Where the email goes to needs to be determined by the backend. The frontend should only be concerned with hiding and showing stuff in the UI, and pretty much all intelligence and business logic needs to reside on the server where we control the code and environment. A good understanding of the roles and responsibilities of the front vs back is a fundamental concept and if the developer hasn't grasped this then they're going to introduce security problems everywhere they go.

This is one of many pitfalls of the "frontend + backend" architecture. I vastly prefer to build monoliths instead.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not the commenter but it seems like the parameters of the HTTP Get/Post weren't protected/checked. The API was likely something like: Email to reset: string(email account to reset) But it accepted something like: [string(email account to reset), string (email to which the reset mail is sent to)]

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Little Bobby Tables? Or would that be an XHR attack?

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bobby table, this, buffer overflow... Are all similar in spirit.

Bobby table is a way for hiding the malicious SQL query after a normal query (in that case after the select with "Bobby" you inject the malicious drop table)

In this case after the normal email (that normally would serve for both identifying the user and for the mail to send the recovering mail), the attacker sends two mails, the first is fo identifying the user the second to send the recovering mail

In the case of buffer overflow you inject malicious code after normal(-ish) data

It's not an XHR attack since for the mail recovery workflow you don't need an authenticated session.

To be a bit more compassionate to the developers, this is probably some dynamic typing problem. Probably ruby is "smart" into understand that an array can contain strings after all... So an array of strings is as good as a string... But here we go into static vs dynamic typing.... And it's a bit of religious war (fun fact in 2011 i was advocating with Guido Van Rossum in having at least an optional static typing check in Python - at the time the discussion was how to make python faster/compiled - and he was borderline mocking me 😅 and few years after pytypes but still no compilation at horizon 😂)

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Thanks for the explanation, my friend!

My problem is that I am a hopeless generalist (which basically means I invariably find myself in support positions rather than what I actually should be doing), and IT is an endless jungle. I'm too curious for my own good.