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What Matrix/Discord/Teams alternatives are there that FULLY support E2EE across Desktop and Mobile? (feddit.de)

submitted 9 months ago by Lemmchen@feddit.de to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Crosspost: https://feddit.de/post/8502102

Element for Android doesn't support searching in encrypted channels and I think you can't use E2EE in the browser at all(?), plus basically every other client has even more drawbacks when it comes to E2EE.

My team recently tried RocketChat, but E2EE is obviously an afterthought for that project as it has even more limitations than non-Element Matrix clients (no searching, no pinning, no file upload, no edit, etc.). Plus Jitsi integration seems to be buggy right now (at least on my Windows installation).

What else is out there that's not on my radar? Is Matrix with Element really the best option right now? Is there no project that puts E2EE above all else?

Edit: Should be self-hostable and (FL)OSS.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying you want encrypted text chat? Or do you want voice or video too?

I wouldn't obsess too much about e2ee once there are that many client os's and apps involved, if the server is self hosted. There will be plenty of other points of vulnerability regardless, including careless humans at the endpoints. It's not really possible to achieve security by just choosing the right software. Real opsec is much more complicated.

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Voice is a requirement as well.
EDIT: But I could get by by hosting Jitsi for that.