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    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I'm trying my very best to love Linux but I'm having so much trouble with Mint.

    I'm running a Mint vm on a proxmox to try it out and for some reason my back button and forward button on my mouse maps to the scroll wheel. The scroll wheel is mapped correctly. I installed Spice to improve performance and so far it's amazing, but the mouse is annoying.

    If I run RDP, it works perfectly, but the lag is too annoying.

    Does anyone here have suggestions? Thanks.

    [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    If I were you I would install Mint on a second drive.

    Pretty sure your issues aren't with Mint they're with the virtualization platform.

    You can get a cheap $40 SSD and install the OS on that.

    Be sure to unplug the windows drive before installing Mint to the other drive. Then plug the Win drive back in. Now you can use the bios boot menu to boot into either.

    [–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Be sure to unplug the windows drive before installing Mint to the other drive.

    Why would you do that? Totally unnecessary. When Windows is already installed any Linux installation respects it without issues. The problem is the other way around, if you install Linux first and then install Windows afterwards on a second partition/drive it nukes your Linux bootloader.

    Especially in times of M.2 drives (which are often behind the GPU) you only annoy people by telling them to unplug their Windows drive first. And they might want to use a second partition on that drive if it's bigger.

    [–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    always unplug the windows drive I've fucked my windows bootloader so many times because if your windows drive shows up in drive order before your Linux drive it'll fuck with it

    [–] just_the_ticket@sh.itjust.works -4 points 9 months ago

    All I can read is "I don't know how to install linux"

    [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

    I would do that because the last time I tried installing a new distro it fucked my windows bootloader. So your statement isn't universally true, sorry to say. I have only had this issue once on one distro. I have not spent the time digging into the underlying cause yet. It may well be distro related. I figured I would save a noob a potential gotcha, however.

    [–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I've run Mint in Virtual Box on Windows with no issues. Really though, the move from Windows to Mint is best done on bare metal.

    [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    Any OS is kinda garbage on VM. I tried to run windows in a VM on my linux, the performance is pure garbage, usbs are tricky and so on

    [–] halendos@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Make sure to enable hardware virtualization on your BIOS/UEFI, and install guest additions.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

    Ya, its a proxmox box. Its sorta required that I do this.

    [–] BlueKey@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    This is a problem of Spice an not Mint, as the protocol (last time I checked) does not know of these extra buttons.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

    That actually too bad since Spice is the fastest vnc I have ever used. I guess I'm stuck looking for another VNC.

    [–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    I used to have a mouse with forward and back buttons and they seemed to work fine.

    Have you tried dual booting on bare metal? I'm thinking it could be VM weirdness, since using something else makes it work fine.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure it's the proxmox that is making it weird.

    My work revolves around using Win11. I have a 3rd screen dedicated to Mint so I can easily switch between systems without much effort.

    I think the issue is Spice. It runs the quickest with almost zero lag, but my mouse isn't perfect. RDP works but there is input lag. I guess I can try another VNC to see if things improve.

    [–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I build your solution some time ago and wasn't impressed, too.

    I actually run fedora on work an virtualized my win partition with "p2v" into a cow2 file. Now if I need windows I run it via qemu.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

    My work is 70% Windows, 20% Mac, 10% Linux. I manage website optimization and use the different systems for testing.

    Why do you like Fedora more?

    [–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    If you get a reasonable amount of downtime off of work, you might be able to set up Mint and run Windows in a VM if you really need to. I feel like that might work better. I'm not sure though as I haven't virtualised an OS in years.

    If the problem is spice it might still be a problem though.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    That's not a bad idea. Would I just run wine for the VM?

    Ya I guess I can try using RDP or some other VNC. Might be better than using Spice.

    [–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    GNU/Linux has VM platforms too. But you can run individual things in WINE and see if they work too. I think GNOME Boxes works fine. I'm not sure if it would suit your needs but you can try it.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

    Thank you!

    [–] dirtySourdough@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Does the mouse need drivers? You could search for the model name and "Linux drivers" to see if the company offers anything

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Its a logitech G502SE. It doesn't look like it has drivers. I also had problems with a logitech steering wheel when I was running Mint on bare metal. Just not a very linux friendly company.

    [–] dirtySourdough@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Ah yeah, that's been my experience too with Logitech. Such a shame because they make some pretty good peripherals.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

    I guess it makes sense. Why make peripherals for 4% of the population?

    [–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    you could try installing antimicrox I had to install it for my azeron keypad to even work for some reason I don't remember why it was a long time ago

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

    I installed something similar to this called "Input Mapper". The problem is the mouse key is not differentiating from the scroll inputs. So I can't remap something that isn't there.