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[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

The task bar is my main reason for staying on 10. Forced grouping with icons only and no option to change it is such a bizarre design decision.

Edit: Sounds like my last major gripe with W11 has been fixed! Dreading a forced switch to 11 much less now.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you can now set taskbar to ungrouped (unless full) now in win11, as of one of the recent monthly updates. still can't move the taskbar to the left side (my preference on wide screen displays), though.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And honestly the never combined feature is really really buggy, and just downright ugly with the way it resizes the bars based on the amount of text in the window's name, even when there's empty space left on the taskbar. If you have your file explorer open to c:/ the bar for the File Explorer is ridiculously tiny, for no good reason. If you want uniform, clean, consistently sized tasks that only shrink to make room when the taskbar is full, forget it.

It also just gets stuck. A lot. If you have a full bar and it needs to combine, then close a couple windows to free space, a lot of times it won't do what it's supposed to do and "ungroup" the remaining windows. It's very inconsistent about when and how it chooses to combine, uncombine, and shrink things.

It just barely works well enough that I'll grit my teeth with it on my work computer, because I don't have a choice about that, but I'm not abandoning the Windows 10 taskbar for this at home.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

My work machine is W11 and has options to change it. Not one of those stupid ‘home’ vs ‘pro’ version things is it?

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can only align the icons to the left, but you can't move the entire taskbar to the side.

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 5 points 10 months ago

Or to the top!

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

The update for grouping just came out a few weeks ago on 11. I know this because when I started a job 5 months ago as a regional analyst it was pure hell with windows 11 until grouping became available. I swear it knocked 10% productivity off the top.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s not, that was “fixed” a while ago.

[–] stufkes@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is also my main reason for not switching and let me tell you this issue is NOT fixed. Do not upgrade to 11. You don't have an option to use small taskbar icons, making the ungrouped tabs massive. Plus they resize themselves constantly. I use 11 at work and the only workaround as of now is third party stuff that either costs money, is a resource hog, or both.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Thank you for clarifying. That sounds awful.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They (finally) changed this in a patch a few months ago. W11 still sucks, but at least it can now do this one thing that all the previous versions could do.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You can move the "start" button to the left but you can't move the entire taskbar to the right or left to be a vertical stripe going down the side. I don't do it but a right or left vertical bar makes much more sense than horizontal given today's wide and ultra wide monitors.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For that matter, they said the reason for the new centered taskbar was to be better for touch screens. Centered on the left or right, sure, but centered on the bottom? That's probably the least convenient spot for a touch interface, especially on a laptop.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't like start button being on the center when using mouse, but come on, when using touch screen on my laptop I don't really care where it's at exactly, as it takes roughly the same amount of time to move my finger to any place on the screen.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The keyboard gets in the way a bit for me when things are lower on the screen. Haven't tried it with a tablet, but I would assume that keeping controls near the sides, where you're already holding the device, would be beneficial there, too.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Good catch. I somehow missed the second part of the comment I was replying to - I was referring to the ability to finally ungroup taskbar items in W11.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I had to use it on a work laptop briefly. It is still insane, when you run out of space it the apps then get put in this crappy overflow area.

You know what I used to be able to do? Make the taskbar 2, or even 3 lines. No more.

I'm staying on windows 10 for work as long as I can help it.

The "show more" menu on right click is absolute insanity. I right click files constantly, all day.

They've taken features away for seemingly no reason.