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President Biden vowed on Monday to veto a House Republican bill that would provide $17.6 billion in aid to Israel, calling it a “cynical political maneuver” intended to hurt the chances of passage for broader legislation that would provide money for Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan and the U.S. border.

House Republicans fiercely oppose the larger bill, which was unveiled by a small, bipartisan group of senators over the weekend. It calls for $118.3 billion in spending and would overhaul some of the nation’s immigration laws to deal with recent surges of migrants at the southern border.

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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de -1 points 9 months ago (15 children)

Then what do you think he wants?

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (14 children)

You realize there are no “good guys” in that war, right? There’s a grey area and a shit ton of nuance to it all. Not to mention a shit ton of history. Only a child sees this as a “which side should I chose be on” situation, and then goes to the intern to beat people over the head with their choice.

For the record, when I was much younger, I was an idealist also. And like the kids today, I also had no idea what I was taking about.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (7 children)

You're refusing to answer the question:

What does Biden specifically want re: Gaza?

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not qualified to know- which is why I don’t make assumptions. I cannot begin to understand politics at that level and what happens behind closed doors. And neither do you. I at least know that he doesn’t want genocide.

But don’t let this stop you from creating a narrative.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So your point is that no one should criticize the United State despite the truth being ambiguous. Makes sense.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with why the International Court Justice ruled that Israel was plausibly committing a genocide. Perhaps that would clear some things up for you

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ROFL… that’s not my point at all, and the fact that this is what you’re taking from it clearly indicates that you’re far too ignorant for this discussion.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your point is that only highly informed elites may criticize the United States. Which is incredibly snobbish and is a tactic to terminate all dissent.

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Strike two. You got one more swing. Make it count.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your initial point was that no one here should criticize the United States/Biden because we aren't in those meetings. Now your point is that anyone who pushes back against you will be blocked. I'm not sure what you're looking for

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That’s strike three.

My initial point is that NEITHER of us definitely know what’s going on enough to accurately say what Biden is thinking, or what reasons he has to do what he’s doing. That’s it. You’re calling shit like you’re Biden’s biographer.

You’re not.

And when did I say I was going to block you? You clearly like to assume you know shit about people and things that you clearly know nothing about. Maybe try to stop doing that moving forward.

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