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Want to see me piss off lemmy? OBSERVE!
Everyone here is against copyright law until the piracy is used to train an LLM, and then copyright law is a holy commandment that must be upheld at all costs.
Not really. It's more about all having to play by the same rules. Some people are getting sued for sharing a few MP3s and here's a company downloading half the internet to make profit. And it's not for the benefit of mankind either, it's for their bottom-line only. I'm not happy with copyright laws, but until they are changed for all I want to see them applied to all alike.
That's what it's about to you right here in this moment but no, more often than not, when a story comes out that they have been using copyrighted works to train their LLM's the general vibe is 'how dare they steal'
It's really bizarre yeah. Fuck copyright.
Legit had a long chain of comments defending copyright and being anti-LLM about a month ago after I essentially said the NYT and GRRM lawsuits against OpenAI were silly.
I like copyleft, a hack of copyright, to allow sharing but also enforce the takers to share back too (if they redistribute). Give me another way to do this without copyright and I'm all aboard.
Want my works? You can have it! I left everything I created together in one place. Now just follow the license agreement.
Legitimately fuck modern copyright and patent law.
Whilst we're forced to endure capitalism, a short copyright of 5-10 years on art is beyond reasonable enough. Maybe 2-3 years on technology & chemical patents for the truly novel inventions, i.e. only if no public funded research forms the basis of the patent (nearly all pharmacy R&D is just rebadged academic research. Clinical trials should be funded by public money before anyone goes there).
No entity deserves the exclusive rights to any idea for anything close to the duration we currently allow. It only stunts progress.
I think it's fair enough to look for the good things that they do, and see if there's a model we can follow for ourselves.
Running a site is one thing, dealing with external factors (local laws, legal requests, public opinion, etc.) is another mess. I'd rather we figured things out now and had some best practices in place, rather than scrambling when the time comes
Even a broken clock…
Yeah me too, I love it when they do the right thing. Of course we only know what they refuse to do, what they agree isn't public.