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I'd like to get away from "arch bad for new users" (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by squid_slime@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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When I say arch I mean the arch distro and all of its offspring.

Endeavouros

Arch-gui

~~Manjaro~~

Artix --maybe not though

My first enjoyable distro was manjaro, the manjaro element less so but using arch clicked for me. But even so if my first experience was using arch and archinstall then yes its not the easiest but its also not that difficult, arch is treated like a boss battle in darksouls.

So when a pre configured GUI arch is recommend I would like to see less scar mongering.

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[–] catguy@mastodon.social 13 points 9 months ago (19 children)

@squid_slime but it is a pretty bad experience for them I use it just for hyprland and that's not what most new users want to see they just want a system that just works

[–] squid_slime@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (18 children)

I struggle to understand what wouldn't work, if I was to download a pre configed GUI arch iso, load it up on my PC I'd be met with plasma/gnome/or any other wm/dm and would most likely have working networking, a GUI application installer and a browser...

[–] balancedchaos@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Some functionality is missing, like USB plug and play, certain network file sharing capabilities, printing...so in addition to learning pacman, having to learn all the package names, you have to look up how to give the OS certain functionalities...it's a lot as a newbie. If you don't love working on computers, you may not make it through that phase.

And I say this with all due respect, as an Arch user myself.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

EndeavourOS might help with all of this but even then I wouldn't put a newbie who just wants to try Linux on it. Arch doesn't even have a proper GUI-based way of installing packages and there's not really an incentive to (Arch users say it's because PackageKit is shit, Arch developers say it's because PackageKit doesn't work with Arch's rolling package releases). PackageKit isn't actually supported on Arch and KDE Discover will go out of its way to tell people that it's not supported on Arch. Maybe someone who has experience with the command line I'd recommend Arch/Endeavour for, since you WILL be using it on Arch, no way around it.

[–] catguy@mastodon.social 2 points 9 months ago

@Flaky @balancedchaos ya this

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