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got told to crosspost over here to reach more people:

https://kbin.social/m/linuxquestions/p/4631784

I don't know if and how crossposting functions in kbin/lemmy, so hopefully it'll work that way

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[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

took the video
https://youtu.be/855QTzZlhWk
as you can see, absolutely nothing happens or shows up. (still uploading rn, should be available shortly)

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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Really weird. Honesty, I currently have no idea how to proceed. Maybe I can google a bit later/tomorrow. But it's not looking good. There doesn't seem to be any good information out there concerning that mainboard an Linux. And since we don't get an error message there isn't a clear thing to begin with.

I would have expected at least something happening on the video. Maybe a few lines of text and then the screen flickering and going to black... But nothing?

[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

yeah, that's the reason I am so desperate ... I understand, so maybe about time to look around for a new mobo?
anyways, I wanted to thank you very much for your time and effort in figuring out and trying to help me, I really do appreciate it very much!

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No problem. I wish I could have provided you with a solution. If you have something like a 14 days free return policy, I'd consider returning it. Otherwise, wait a few days before you start thinking about a new motherboard. Maybe someone with a better idea still replies to you.

But I can empathize with your situation. I also used to have hardware that was a mess or didn't work at all. It's just annoying.

[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No worries, at least you tried and I‘m grateful for it.

One last thing: so you would also go for mobo replacement? In my opinion its uefi/bios and a new mobo should help, but I like having more opinions…

Thank you again for trying

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

It's likely the mobo. A Ryzen processor and a nvidia 3070 isn't so uncommon. And you already said you updated the BIOS and put quite an amount of effort in.

If you can return it or have a friend in need of a mobo... I'd swap it... However, there is still a possibility that someone reads your post on the weekend and happens to know something more. Or you use Linux in a VM from within Windows. That may work, I don't know you, I wouldn't do it since I use Linux 99% of the time.

Only thing I would advise against is hoping the issue will someday get fixed. In many cases it never happens.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I have another kernel option for you to try: "earlyprintk is useful when the kernel crashes before the normal console is initialized. It is not enabled by default because it has some cosmetic problems."

  • earlyprintk=vga,keep debug
  • earlyprintk=efi,keep or earlyprintk=bios,keep

I'm not sure if it gets you anywhere, but it could make the fist kernel messages show up.

And you could try replacing the acpi=off with acpi=noirq. If it's something with the interrputs, there are extra options like apic=irqfixup or nolapic (mind the difference apic <-> acpi). (Taken from this document)

I had the time to google a bit and I was right, I am about to run out of ideas. There is a good general guide in the arch wiki on how to approach issues:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/General_troubleshooting#Boot_problems

Maybe also read that, but that's pretty much it.

[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wow thank you so much for keeping up on it!

I tried the earlyprintk options, but unfortunately none of them did work. Neither did the orher acpi options show up something, I do still have the exact same behaviour :(

I will work through the troubleshoot link you pasted, thank you as well for that.

Appreciate your help, I guess I‘ll start thinking about replacing the mobo

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I guess I‘ll start thinking about replacing the mobo

Yeah, I'm slowly getting to the same conclusion. You could try and rip out all other non-essential components to rule them out. If there are any. And go through the BIOS options once more, switch everything to "Other OS" and try the "legacy" modes for ACPI, boot etc. But at this point I somehow doubt any of this will make any difference. Just make sure the next mobo is alright 😆

[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

got some news. I don't think, that it might change something, but who knows.
I added in grub the option "insmod progress" (which I found by googling somewhere). It should show, if kernel and initrd do load or not and now I can see, that the vmlinuz and initrd are loading to 100% and after that it hangs. So it looks like the kernel loads but then stucks.
As said before, I don't think that this might change something in regards to further tests with my actual mobo, but I didn't want to left that out ...

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

Ah nice. At least something. But I don't think it'll change anything since it's still grub outputting that, and not a life sign from the kernel.

[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I already got one in mind and looked it up on linux-hardware.org - any other option I‘d have to make sure the next one is alright? (Besides socket and compatibility with my other hw)

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I have no idea. It's been ages since I last bought a mainboard and that one was recommended in a computer magazine... I'd google it. See if other people have issues with it. And I't trust blogs, Reddit and forums more than the traditional compatibility charts.

[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alright, no worries! You invested so much time and effort trying to help me out, I can‘t thank you enough for that, really really appreciate it much!

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hehe, no worries. I think the community needs to stick together. I used to do (voluntary) computer support once a week at university before I moved, now I occasionally do it here. It's always nice being able to help people ...Or in your case at least trying... To me, it's way more fun than discussing politics or the latest news, anyways. And I mean I'm no exception. I also sometimes need support, ask questions about a new distro or get my itches scratched by people who solve my issues on Github.

[–] Varen@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Oh I absolutely can relate haha
Maybe one day I‘ll be here asking dumb questions again, watch out 😁