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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 98 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

OpenAI wants to eat everyone's lunch. They don't even respect robots.txt.

I'm gonna be real, I don't think an AI company stealing every bit of data I ever put online to ingest into their AI so they can use it to make money really falls under "fair use."

If it were individuals, who were doing it for shits and giggles, and not to make a profit, I'd have a different view. Because I kind of don't care if you're just some random asshat making an art project and aren't using it to try make beaucoup bucks on the back of the whole planets intellectual labor.

Fair Use should be for humans not corporations. Fuck this "corporations are people too" schtick, they aren't and the fact that they're taking this data and using it to profit really should be viewed no differently than the argument that people made about The Pirate Bay, that through piracy, they were making money, which is what made it wrong.

If we keep allowing the rich to just steal from the public commons because of dumb shit like corporations having the same rights as people, we're barrelling headlong into a Cyberpunk Dystopia, if we're not there already.

Humans who are creating art and culture should have rights to Fair Use, not giant fucking corporations using it to profit wildly at the public expense. Copyright is all fucked up and broken, and this is a great example of why, because we're aiming provisions that were meant to protect the public are now aimed at protecting corporations profits.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This is all exactly what I've been thinking, and better parsed too. If "we" don't guide AI with the law now, we're screwed.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

good luck trying to convince our capitalist overlords to stop making money.

we need more than laws yo

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not even that the lawmakers are capitalists, it's that they are ancient, and have no clue about this. There are sitting congresspeople who proudly say they've never sent an email.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I strongly doubt legislators are innocent old men, just caught off guard by tech, even if some might. They know what it is and are trying to figure out how to control it.

And the lawmakers don't even need to be capitalists themselves (even though they mostly are), they just need to be in their pockets. Its not a coincidence their legislation is almost always beneficial to corporations one way or the other.

Hell, in the US lobbying is legal, its not even a secret.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I never called anyone innocent and never implied it. I was highlighting the true issue is that our whole legislature is completely outclassed by the progress of tech.

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

I don't like corporations using the data I put online to train their AI either. I'd happily give it to people to train a FOSS AI tho. I've also contributed my voice to Mozillas Common Voice project, which is an open dataset that everyone is allowed to use. If it's something that everyone can use and benefit from equally, I'm happy to help. I'm not happy to help some corporation make even more profits tho. At least not without getting payed.