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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (22 children)

No, it will kill PWAs. And since Apple dictates what everyone else does, this also automatically means PWAs are dead on Android, too. It'll probably get prevented system-side in the future no matter which browser you use, they'll find a way.

[–] parens@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago (21 children)

Why would they be dead on Android?

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Like it or not, Apple is the trend setter. Everybody feels like they need to do what Apple does. So given that, Apple kills PWAs, everyone else will surely follow.

That's normally how it goes anyway.

[–] Phanatik@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't think that's true. Android has had more features than Apple for over a decade. People forget that iPhones didn't used to have a proper file manager and the only way to put songs on them was through iTunes. iOS has been trailing behind Android in that respect while maintaining their walled garden.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago

People also forget that smartphones existed before iPhones and MP3 players existed before iPods.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's the point though. Android has all these features, but they only suddenly become "real" to the general public when Apple makes their version of it too.

I was using Google Wallet for NFC transactions years before Apple made the same available, but as soon as they did everyone started asking if I liked the new iPhone when I paid with it.

[–] Phanatik@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

The comment I replied to suggested the opposite, that whatever decisions Apple makes, Android follows behind which isn't the case in reality.

I understand your point though. It's weird that people who use iPhones have this mentality that iPhones are at the forefront of innovation. I know some people who are aware that Apple is behind but the phone does what they require of it so they have no need to ask more.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't make them trend-setters though - that just makes them big spenders on marketing. i.e. Android wasn't following what Apple did - they'd already been doing it first!

[–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Technologically, Apple are far behind. But they're trend setters in terms of the fact that their big marketing and outsized mind share make people want those features.

It's dumb, but that's where we are. iOS is essentially the IE6 of the mobile space at this point, holding back real advancements until Apple figures out a way to make a buck off them.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago

The original comment was

it will kill PWAs

like if Apple STOPS doing it then everyone else will stop doing it. Like when Apple stopped having 3.5mm jacks everyone else stopped having 3.5mm jacks. Oh wait...

As I said, they're big spenders, not trend-setters.

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