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I joined Proton just a few days ago, and I'm paying for it so I can use my custom domain.

I watched this interview and it raises a huge question for me (link includes timestamp): https://tilvids.com/w/q1mZzv6eq3iULLmGdV6w6M?start=6m20s

In this interview, Andy Yen says about gmail et al "there's no such thing as a free lunch". Then, in nearly the same breath, he boasts that most Proton users don't pay, they use the basic service for free because that's all they need.

So my question is: if there's no such thing as a free lunch (which there isn't), how come Proton can offer it?

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[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Because the paying users subsidize the free product, they pay the free lunch. Meanwhile google, like most big platforms, is (almost, see comment) entirely without payment, instead subsidized by ads (and of course the sold data); with gmail you’re not paying with money, but with your attention (and your data).

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

Well, not entirely, Google does have a paid tier but I see your point (that's not their primary source of revenue)

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