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Empowering you to choose a better internet where privacy is the default. Protect yourself online with Proton Mail, Proton VPN, Proton Calendar, Proton Drive. Proton Pass and SimpleLogin.

Proton Mail is the world's largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free.

Proton VPN is the world’s only open-source, publicly audited, unlimited and free VPN. Swiss-based, no-ads, and no-logs.

Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.

Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It's open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.

Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.

SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.

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from the team:


Hi everyone,

After Apple made it possible to support VPNs on Apple TV, you’ve made it clear that you would like to see support for Proton VPN.

After announcing that it would be available this summer and publishing the source code in September, it took a bit of time to get through Apple’s review process, but we’re happy to share that it is now available!

With Apple TV and Proton VPN, you can now stream your favorite shows, films, and sporting events on your big-screen TV in full 4K from over 100 servers via your Apple TV, no matter where you are: protonvpn.com/download-appletv

Proton VPN is now available on tvOS!

See our streaming guide for more information: https://protonvpn.com/support/streaming-guide/

Proton VPN is now available across the Apple ecosystem on iOS, macOS, iPadOS, Apple Vision Pro, and tvOS. Let us know what you think!

The Proton Team

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from the team:


Hi everyone,

We've heard your requests and are excited to announce that FIDO2 support is now live for all Proton mobile apps! This means you can use security keys like YubiKey to add a layer of phishing-resistant protection to your account. Here’s how to add a security key to your account using the web app:

https://proton.me/support/2fa-security-key

After adding security keys, you can use them to authenticate on mobile when signing into all Proton mobile apps.

Thank you to everyone who's been asking for this feature. We're always working to make Proton more secure and user-friendly, and your feedback is invaluable in helping us get there.

What's next?

Soon, we'll provide the option to disable the Authenticator App for those with registered security keys, so stay tuned!

Give it a try and let us know what you think!

Proton Team

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  • New apps for Windows, iOS, and iPadOS as we refresh the look and feel of Proton VPN while also adding some of the most commonly requested features by you, such as hiding free servers (for paid users), selecting servers based on cities, and more.
  • Custom DNS for Android, macOS, iOS and iPadOS, and Linux.
  • Expanded support for streaming platforms at national and international level (we currently support more than 60).
  • iOS users will be able to add a Proton VPN widget to their home screens for easy access.
  • Expanded IPv6 support across platforms.
  • Port forwarding on macOS & Linux.
  • Guest mode for iOS & iPadOS.
  • Split tunneling on macOS first, then Linux.
  • And some new (~~secret~~) privacy features!

Read full blogpost: Link

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Proton's VPN app will be among the first to work natively on Windows ARM PCs, the company announced.

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I'm quite angry at this. I've used Mullvad VPN without any obtrusive ads, with a clean interface that worked very well.

I stumbled upon a new Proton plan and decided I'd pay and sign up to give it a go to meet my growing needs. After turning on my computer, I'm greeted with a massive pop up advertisement that takes up ~30% of my screen. While scanning settings, I do not see an easy way to disable these promotional ads.

I feel like I've gone back in time and am using Norton software that I got with my HP Pavilion Windows XP pc.

I did a quick Internet search and see there's a Reddit post from a year ago where a user complained about the same thing, but no solution was provided. If I find anything I'll update this post. But right now I'm quite angry, and I'm venting because this is my first reaction to seeing this crap. I'm paying for a service and the last thing I want to see are pop up ads.

I'm going to have a serious think about whether or not I should cancel my subscription and instead just keep my Mullvad.

EDIT:

I finished checking Proton VPN's settings and there is no option to disable promotional ads. I'll contact Proton support and see what they advise. Will revert after I hear back from them and complete the Support interaction.

EDIT 2: I posted a reflective comment below, but I figure I'll update this post. I first made this post shortly after I woke up, and my reaction was anger. Now that it's been some time and I have had breakfast, my coffee, and been at work for a while, I realise I shouldn't have reacted that way. I'm more disappointed than angry. I get it if Proton wants to have a pop up that appears once around the Black Friday sales day, which is fine. But at least Steam lets me disable pop up promotions. Why can't Proton? If they won't add a toggle to disable those, then fine I get it - but I only want to appear once. Or at least embed a banner in the Proton app, or just have an "Offers" button. I pay for a service, I don't want pop ups as I personally feel they're hostile to the User experience. Why should that feature exist when Mullvad's UI is seamless, intuitive, and has no pop up ads? Anyway, I'm an adult and I reacted like I'm still a kid. Need to learn from this type of thing and be a better person - sorry, I'm having a reflective introspective moment here that no one should care about except me ha ha.

EDIT 3: Another user recommended I submit a feature request to improve Proton, which I have done so.

Here is where I posted and voted on my idea request:

"Add Settings toggle to disable pop up promotional ads from Proton (e.g., Black Friday promo)" - https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932836-proton-vpn/suggestions/48959543-pop-up-notifications-in-the-proton-vpn-application#comments

And here is another idea request I found from someone else who posted something similar a few weeks ago on oct 14th, although their request is to just disable pop up ads entirely:

"Pop-up notifications in the Proton VPN application, specifically those promoting Proton Duo" - https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/932836-proton-vpn/suggestions/48959543-pop-up-notifications-in-the-proton-vpn-application#comments

I think the suggestion here is that if you're a Proton user and if this bothers you, it might be worth commenting and voting on my idea request to help with visibility to the Proton dev team.

I'll post a final update once I complete my support interaction with proton support.

FINAL EDIT:

I included a screenshot with all identifiable information redacted for both Proton and myself. I guess two Zendesk support tickets were created for this issue. While you can review the full details in the responses, the summary from Proton is simply as follows:

  • We have the ability to opt out of promotional communications over email by logging into your Proton online account.
  • Disabling promotional pop ups in Proton VPN (and perhaps other Proton apps - I only have VPN) is not a feature in the application
  • You can submit and vote on feature requests in the UserVoice platform they setup.

Ultimately, the only way we can request this change is by voting for it on the UserVoice platform. If this issue is important to you, scroll up and click on those Uservoice.com links I provided and vote on those features. Also helps to add a comment on that page as well.

As for me, I think me feeling like my reaction to cancel is brash (as I previously shared my feelings to this issue in an earlier update yesterday. I'll certainly keep my subscription simply because I've only had it for a small time frame and I have not fully tried out the service. Unless Proton VPN blows me away with features that I can't get in any other VPN, I don't believe I'll renew. I will most likely let my subscription expire and then go back to Mullvad since they give a fantastic VPN app with things that are not hostile to the user experience. If Proton commits to adding the feature I'm looking for, I may consider renewing or possibly exploring their other services.

Thanks for everyone chiming in with their thoughts. Hope you learned something today (???)! And I'll leave you with one final thing - remember to be kind to each other. Sure I reacted over this issue with anger, but I was kind to the support people at Proton because it's certainly not their fault. And most importantly, I had a chance to reflect and realise my anger at the situation was immature and I hope that I tucked this away and learned from it. Remember to forgive yourself like I did. The world needs more kindness - be the change you want to see in the world. Alright, enough of this positivity crap. This is just a post about a VPN service, not a feel good moment. :)

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upon installation of the most up to date 4.7.1, I couldn't start the Protonvpn

TLDR, reinstall proton-vpn-gnome-desktop, fixes the issues.

below are my terminal history,

similar to the bug report from reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/1gjhaoi/protonvpn_update_on_linux_mint_213_fails_to_start/ (front end: https://redlib.privacyredirect.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/1gjhaoi/protonvpn_update_on_linux_mint_213_fails_to_start/)

$ protonvpn-app 

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/protonvpn-app", line 33, in <module>
    sys.exit(load_entry_point('proton-vpn-gtk-app==4.7.1', 'console_scripts', 'protonvpn-app')())
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/app/gtk/__main__.py", line 35, in main
    controller = Controller.get(executor, exception_handler)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/app/gtk/controller.py", line 64, in get
    executor.submit(controller.initialize_vpn_connector).result()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/concurrent/futures/_base.py", line 458, in result
    return self.__get_result()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/concurrent/futures/_base.py", line 403, in __get_result
    raise self._exception
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/app/gtk/controller.py", line 97, in initialize_vpn_connector
    self._connector = await self._api.get_vpn_connector()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/core/api.py", line 63, in get_vpn_connector
    self._vpn_connector = await VPNConnector.get(
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/core/connection.py", line 94, in get
    await connector.initialize_state()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/core/connection.py", line 251, in initialize_state
    state = await self._get_initial_state()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/core/connection.py", line 240, in _get_initial_state
    current_connection = await self._get_current_connection()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/vpn/core/connection.py", line 218, in _get_current_connection
    backend_class = Loader.get("backend", persisted_parameters.backend)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proton/loader/loader.py", line 129, in get
    raise RuntimeError(f"Loader: couldn't find an acceptable implementation for {type_name}.")
RuntimeError: Loader: couldn't find an acceptable implementation for backend.

$ sudo apt install proton-vpn-gnome-desktop

[sudo] password for user: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  python3-proton-vpn-network-manager
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  proton-vpn-gnome-desktop python3-proton-vpn-network-manager
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 31.1 kB of archives.
After this operation, 207 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable/main all python3-proton-vpn-network-manager all 0.9.4 [28.4 kB]
Get:2 https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable/main all proton-vpn-gnome-desktop all 0.8.0 [2,628 B]
Fetched 31.1 kB in 1s (24.5 kB/s)                    
Selecting previously unselected package python3-proton-vpn-network-manager.
(Reading database ... 235378 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../python3-proton-vpn-network-manager_0.9.4_all.deb ...
Unpacking python3-proton-vpn-network-manager (0.9.4) ...
Selecting previously unselected package proton-vpn-gnome-desktop.
Preparing to unpack .../proton-vpn-gnome-desktop_0.8.0_all.deb ...
Unpacking proton-vpn-gnome-desktop (0.8.0) ...
Setting up python3-proton-vpn-network-manager (0.9.4) ...
Setting up proton-vpn-gnome-desktop (0.8.0) ...
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Is it possible to share a proton doc to someone without an account?

According to this help page, there should be a public link creator. When I open the dialog this option does not appear.

Am I missing something, or is this possibly related to the fact that the document was created in proton?

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The Google Play Store version of Proton VPN (not the F-Droid or GitHub versions (unless they have been updated the last few weeks)) allows people to use Proton VPN as a 'Guest', i.e. without logging into a Proton account. The average user might think, because they have not provided an email address or any other details whatsoever, that using Proton VPN as a Guest gives them an additional layer of anonymity.

Would they be correct?

Or am I right in thinking that when a person downloads the VPN app from the Play Store, their Gmail address (logged into the Google Play Store) is shared with Proton, and because Proton receives this identifiable information from Google it is why Proton allows 'Guest' usage on the Play Store version and not on the FOSS versions of the app?

If yes, does Proton store these Gmail addresses and are therefore able to provide them to Swiss authorities if demanded?

Proton VPN says they are a "no-logs VPN service", but their definition of what that is leaves me with a few questions. They say "we keep no session usage logs" of which websites people visit, or their actual IP address, but does this mean the data they have is only cleared once the session ends? Do they not need an identifier to know where to send data whilst the VPN is in use? What if the user does not switch off their VPN - can Proton what websites a specific Google 'Guest' user is visiting whilst they are in a session?

Although a user logged in with a Proton account would have peace of mind that some or all their other data (emails, files, etc) is E2EE and therefore safe, if the the user is a 'Guest' and Proton stores their Gmail address, the user is much more likely to be identified and their Google data accessed by authorities.

If on a single device the user is logged into their Proton account in their browser or other Proton apps but use the VPN as a Guest because they think it would make them less identifiable, could Proton, or Swiss or foreign authorities connect the Proton account with the VPN usage (specifically, the Gmail account if nothing else)?

All that is to ask, are 'Guests' any more or less 'anonymous' than Proton VPN users who log in with their Proton account?

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I’ve been looking into the student discount offered by Proton. I’ve tried going through student beans and I never seen uBlock freak out as much as it has so I am not touching any of those links is there a (safe) way to get the discount and is it even still offered? Thanks for the help

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Can someone see my email if I publicly share the proton drive file? I tested this, and I can't see the email, but I still want to confirm this with the community since it's not stated anywhere.

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from the team:


Hi everyone,

Docs in Drive has gone mobile! Securely collaborate and manage your documents from your mobile device with the Proton Drive app, on both iOS and Android. End-to-end encryption ensures your privacy, wherever you are.

More on Proton Docs here: https://proton.me/blog/docs-proton-drive

Make sure your Drive app is updated, give it a try, and let us know what you think!

Download Proton Drive:https://proton.me/drive/download

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from the team:


Hi everyone,

Based on your feedback, we're happy to share that you can now sync aliases between Proton Pass and SimpleLogin.

This feature is rolling out now and will be available for everyone soon. ⏰

Here's how it works:

  • Tap the 'sync aliases' button in Proton Pass
  • Choose which vault to sync aliases to
  • Aliases will continue to sync, and disabled aliases will be reflected in Proton Pass and SimpleLogin

What’s next?

Soon, you’ll be able to manage custom domains and additional mailboxes, as well as send emails from Proton Pass hide-my-email aliases.

Let us know what you think.

Proton Team

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Proton has been uploading short 1.5 minute videos on their channel, and I feel like they lack substance and don't go over any of the topics meaningfully. Do you see this format resonating with the public? Should they be making more in-depth videos?

I'm guessing the demographic that follows Naomi Brockwell TV, for example, doesn't intersect much with the ones that might watch those shorts

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can you make the VPN app integrate with the app indicator?

also, add a session timer or show the connection establish time?

like this:

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I see this block every time I open my email. Is this a bug I'm facing or is this the new normal?

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from the team:


Hi everyone,

We've been listening to your feedback, and today we're excited to announce the launch of the Pass Family plan! Many of you have been asking for a way to manage your family's online security and passwords, and we're happy to deliver.

Lock in our limited-time price of $3.99/mo for 12 months - forever! proton.me/pass/family

What do I get?

Protecting your online identity is just the starting point. Keeping your children's online identities safe and helping your parents avoid the 'forgot my password' cycle are equally crucial.

Here’s what’s included:

  • Premium features for up to 6 people, so you can keep your whole family's online identity safe
  • Simple and secure password sharing
  • Integrated 2FA, for an extra layer of protection
  • Hide-my-email aliases, to help you cut down on spam and unwanted emails

We hope this new plan will help you and your loved ones stay safe online. Let us know what you think, and as always, thank you for being part of the Proton community!

Proton Team

Edit: for anyone on the legacy $1/m plan, we'll be sending out an email soon with upgrade details. You can use the coupon code PASSEARLYSUPPORTER and it should work automatically for those eligible. Contact support if you need any assistance.

Edit 2: If you're already on the Proton Family plan, you already have access to Proton Pass.

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When proton first added docs you could only edit them through a browser. I just noticed today that they added it to the android app!

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i have a custom domain witg catch all setup on protonmail. Is there a way to send every email that is sent to a specific address to spam always?

i.e. if I gave a company A the email "A@domain.tdl" and no longer want any emails from them, or anyone with who knows that specific email, how would I go about this? Thanks!

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I used to be a command line interface (CLI) user and still prefer it, but the graphical user interface (GUI) app has been good—it's stable and fast with WireGuard.

It will reconnect if the connection drops, and the kill switch is functioning. If you're using the v3 CLI, you should check out the new GUI.

A big thank you to the dev

until there is a cli, i will using the gui

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I downloaded ProtonVPN (5.5.68.0) a few months ago via the Google Play Store and have been happily using it ‘anonymously’ as a Guest with no problem. I recently purchased a new Android device and this time I chose to download the same VPN (5.5.68.0) via F-Droid to maintain some privacy. However, there appears to be no option in the FOSS version of the app to use Proton VPN as a guest - I am told I have to sign-up with an actual email address.

For a company claiming they are "Empowering you to choose a better internet where privacy is the default. Protect yourself online with... Proton VPN" (look to the right of this page), this decision astounds me. Assuming the error is not on my part, why is the purported FOSS version on F-Droid forcing users to give identifiable information (even if it’s only an email address and password), but the Google Android version does not?

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