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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 136 points 8 months ago (38 children)

Everyone wishing for more users might be wishing on a cursed monkey paw. I don’t know what the sweet spot number of active users is — I want more so we can have contributors to niche communities — but there’s a tipping point. You want your favorite bar/restaurant/message boards to be popular but not too popular.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 85 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

Personally I think it's more important to break big-tech's hold on online communication. Every single user who leaves a centralized platform to join the Fediverse is a win in my books! Another thing is that we never had a mainstream decentralized, nonprofit and non-algorithmic social network before afaik, I'm actually not sure if the climate will evolve like it did with the other networks.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I don't get the hate against algorithms, they're just a tool, can be good and bad

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm referring to recommendation algorithms, the bad thing about them is that they can be used to manipulate people. Algorithms in general are fine of course.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

recommendation algorithms are fine too, the problem with modern social media is algorithms tuned for engagement.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And which algorithms would that be?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Whatever algorithms youtube, tiktok, instagram etc. use to drive engagement. They don't have any names that I'm aware of

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The problematic ones for that are mostly recommendation algorithms afaik, but there are others like gamification ofc. You can call them engagement algorithms if you want to be a bit more broad. But that's what I mean when I criticize "algorithmic" platforms, and I think that's what most people mean when they talk about algorithms in this context.

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