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[–] 520@kbin.social 44 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I disagree.

The characters involved happen to be gay, but there's nothing in the scenarios that are exclusive to gay couples. The same messages can be taken from it even if they were a hetero couple.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hetero couples do have the added difficulty of scoring contraceptives in a post apocalyptic world though.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

there's nothing in the scenarios that are exclusive to gay couples.

There definitely are. Before the collapse of society, these two characters would not have been allowed to marry in the place where they live. It was only after societal collapse that they were free to be their true selves without discrimination or government oversight to tell them that their love was wrong.

It would not be the same story if it was a hetero couple, and it is dismissive to the unique challenges faced by gay people to suggest it would be.

[–] KingPyrox@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Does it really matter though? Because from what I watched that episode was what someone would do for love. And to be honest, I don't think it would've had as big as an impact with a hetero couple.

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Before the collapse of society, these two characters would not have been allowed to marry in the place where they live. It was only after societal collapse that they were free to be their true selves without discrimination or government oversight to tell them that their love was wrong.

Before the societal collapse, these people were early ~~teenagers~~ infants, if that. They never lived an adult life under such a regime, and have just as much an understanding about life in such a regime as hetero couples that did live under it: they probably heard about it, and know that on paper it was bad, but they never had to live it.

Ellie is 14 when we first meet her, some ~~6 months~~ 20 years after the collapse. She has zero understanding of what it was like to live under the pre-infection government.

Edit: initially got the time jump wrong. It's 20 years not 6 months

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

This whole thread is about the two middle aged guys who we meet somewhere around halfway through the first season, not the reveal that Ellie is gay near the end.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Can I upvote x100? That's the thing that struck me the hardest, I guess. Finally no-one to judge them. For them to be them and just be two humans with nothing but true love. But it needed a zombie apocalypse to be free from all other shit

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I haven't seen it but I don't follow why it can't be both