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Elon Musk’s Vegas Loop project racks up serious safety violations — Workers describe routine chemical burns, permanent scarring to limbs, and violations that call into question claims of innovative...::The Boring Company’s tiny Las Vegas Loop is all that’s come of Musk’s promises to build superfast mass-transit “hyperloops.” Workers say its tunnels are packed with chemical sludge.

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[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Why can't they use all the shit they've learned from hyperloop, and use it to make cheaper metro/subway transit? Like oh, you created a faster and more efficient tunneling/ bore machine? Great, lease it out so these other cities can have better mass transit and more walkable cities please?

Do this and I won't hate you as much Elon. But you won't because you're a greedy cunt and only want to use hyperloop hype to sell more Teslas.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Bluntly, nothing new was learned from any of hyperloops endevors, the fast boring was done by using smaller machines, which the company did not develop. Maybe we confirmed our knowledge of air resistance

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't think they learned anything new. They just bought some tunnel boring machines and made some tunnels

Also I think the tunnels are for cars

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

We already knew how to make metro and transit. Hyperloop taught us nothing except that we shouldn't trust billionaires

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

The "hyperloop" ignored centuries of lessons from making metro/subway transit lines and is suffering for it.

Single loop, single track operation so you have no tolerance for an individual vehicle having problems or delays. 2-3 passenger vehicles, each with a driver, instead of gaining throughput by putting more passengers per vehicle. To try and make up for the first two, incredibly time sensitive load/unload operations, which mean you have to 'train' passengers and load them and their luggage in <30s/person or the entire system suffers. High wear on the vehicles because it's rubber on 'rock' instead of metal on metal.

More operating vehicles, all of which are only constructed to consumer standards, operating in harsher conditions than they were built for, for longer than they were meant to run without maintenance, leads to more breakdowns faster. Any breakdown trashes how the whole system works, because it's a single track operation.

The Victorians literally built better subways using horses and vacuum systems.