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Tumblr and Wordpress to Sell Users’ Data to Train AI Tools (www.404media.co)
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this could not be timed worse for Tumblr which is in huge hot water with its userbase already for its CEO breaking his sabbatical to ban a prominent trans user for allegedly threatening him (in a cartoonish manner), and then spending a week personally justifying it increasingly wildly across several platforms. the rumors had already been swirling that this would occur, but this just cements that they were correct

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[–] kittykittycatboys@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

is there a real fediverse alternative to tumblr yet? i did hear that tumblr was working on activitypub support... but this shows the opposite intentions :<

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is not opposite, they just want to pull in data from the fediverse automatically so that they can sell it too.

We need some explicit licensing of our public fediverse data otherwise it will just be used to sell it back to us.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I've seen almost no movement against Tumblr while everyone got very riled up about Meta federation ie fedipact, probably a blindspot bc users have positive associations with tumblr, but it's still an ad/data company all the same.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 4 points 8 months ago

No one actually believes that Tumblr will implement AP

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also wordpress is already federated, and nobody seems to care.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

The obvious difference being my/others mastodon posts aren't showing up on wordpress and being monetized. One way federation to masto doesn't matter bc it isn't data farming / putting ads on masto content.

[–] fracture@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

it's not federated or open, but cohost is a tumblr-alternative run by a group of queer devs who promise not to sell the company or your data. i don't blame you if you don't buy into it, but i do like the platform

https://cohost.org/rc/welcome

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't really trust that promise, frankly. I just checked their terms of service and it has the usual clause:

You must own all rights, title, and interest, including all intellectual property rights, in and to, the User Content you make available on the Services. ASSC requires licenses from you for that User Content to operate the Services. By posting User Content on the Services, you grant ASSC a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, sublicensable, worldwide license to use, reproduce, distribute, perform, publicly display or prepare derivative works of your User Content.

Which isn't really surprising, it's standard boilerplate for a reason. They don't want to be caught in a situation where they can't function legally any more. They say they won't sell the company or your data, and they might even believe that right now, but who knows what the future might bring? They have the ability to do so if the circumstances arise.

[–] fracture@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

is there a way they could protect themselves ("still legally be able to function") without that clause?

[–] kittykittycatboys@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

i do know cohost, but id prefer fediversed and foss stuff ideally cuz like walled gardens n stuff >w<

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@alyaza @kittykittycatboys Friendica, to some degree. It's pretty flexible, and you can have something like a basic blog. You do depend on the server admin to install the themes that you need, if they're not present. Once they're installed, you can switch between them at will.

There is even a Tumblr add-on if there's anyone you need to follow there.

[–] kittykittycatboys@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

hmm ill take a look, though idk it sounds a bit like a facebook clone and thats not what im looking for, but thanks for ur help !! :3

[–] mlaga97@lemmy.mlaga97.space 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Direct link for the lazy: Wafrn, a Tumblr-like Fediverse platform, and the code: frontend and backend. Seems VERY* early in development, so hopefully some of the masses fleeing Tumblr will be devs to contribute to it

Quick edit: Love that on the linked thread, the dev answered something from within their platform, and it was very much a Tumblr-style answer

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

I'm intrigued too, seems like a fairly simple platform to replicate