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[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (22 children)

If you don’t vote for Biden then you are either voting for Trump or helping Trump

I'm so tired of this rhetoric. Let people vote for who they believe in without shaming them. Americans should not be strong armed into voting for a candidate they don't actually want.

[–] rudyharrelson@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Let people vote for who they believe in without shaming them.

Voting is like freedom of speech. Everyone is free to vote for whoever they want, but they aren't immune from criticism for how they vote. If someone votes for a guy who says he'll "be a dictator on day one" and encourage Russia to "do whatever the hell they want", I'm gonna shame that person for supporting such an insupportable candidate who espouses such insane ideas.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (9 children)

To be clear, I was directly responding to someone who was claiming that not voting for Biden is like voting for Trump. I hate that rhetoric and it's not true. If you want to blame someone for Trump winning, you blame the people that voted for him.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay but we're in a 2 party system. It sucks, but it is what it is. It's either Biden or Trump winning no matter how you feel on the matter.

Both of them support Israel, one with slowly(very slowly, yes) waning support and the other essentially saying he'd gladly help turn Palestine into rubble.

Domestically, Biden has been doing pretty good. The rail strike was a fiasco but besides that he's mostly been a small step forward from Obama.

Meanwhile, Trump is Trump. His first term was a complete disaster for the country, and now he's outright saying he'll be a dictator rounding up the "enemy", he's saying he won't defend our allies from Russia, he's well and truly dementia-addled now(Mercedes? oof), etc...

Voting for Trump is far worse obviously, but not voting against him still makes it more likely he wins. Just as you have the freedom to make that decision, I have the freedom to judge the shit out of you for it.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social -2 points 8 months ago

Okay but we're in a 2 party system. It sucks, but it is what it is. It's either Biden or Trump winning no matter how you feel on the matter.

Ever consider that we only get to choose between these two parties because people like you fear mongering and demanding everyone maintain the status quo?

If it's guaranteed that Trump or Biden are winning then elections are obviously foregone conclusions, our votes don't really matter, and neither party has any reason to ever change because they're guaranteed to hold at least 50% of power at any given time. We might as well eliminate ballots and just automatically declare a winner based on party registration numbers.

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