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[–] 20hzservers@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I followed from your logic that you should be in support of collective bargaining by the labour force to negotiate a living wage in exchange for the collective labour the provide. But you don't apparently because you either intentionally or mistakenly believe the falsehood that employers willingly pay the full value of the labour they employ others to do. This has been shown to be false through most of human history.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What you're paid is what you deserve.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is not true. Workers are de facto responsible for using up the inputs to produce the outputs in the firm. By the tenet that legal and de facto responsibility should match, the workers should jointly get the positive and negative product of the firm (i.e. the property rights to the produced outputs and liabilities for the used-up inputs). Yet, the employer is who gets 100% of this whole product and workers as employees receive 0% @workreform

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

This is not true. You need to understand that there are no workers, then everything will fall in place neatly.

[–] 20hzservers@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lick those boots clean, got it. Or you're the one wearing the boots in which case may I get your neck size in cm for the guillotine please 🥺