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    Wayland vs Xorg be like (sh.itjust.works)
    submitted 8 months ago by loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    Yes, I made it using a laptop's trackpad, how could you tell?

    [Image description: Panel 1: Young man confidently walking, his vest bears the Wayland logo. Behind him is a grunt with the Gnome logo on his face holding a katana. The young man says: "It's high time you retire, old man!" Panel 2: An old man with a long beard and the Xorg logo on his chest is sitting on a throne and petting a rat, the XFCE mascot. He says: "It's still a hundred years too early for you to defeat me!" ]

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    [–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

    Wayland gets so many more of the basics so much better than X11 it's not even funny anymore. X11 is stuttery, unsecure, unmaintaned, can't really be updated for new features that are pretty important in 2024 (VRR, HDR). For now with my usage, the only big disadvantage I saw from Wayland is that you can't restart it like X11 when something goes wrong, but that's the thing, I haven't had to restart it like I had to often with X11. Even on Nvidia Wayland is better now, except maybe for gaming but that's Nvidia for you.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    10% FPS drop compared to X11 because of perfect frame requirements

    X11 has literally never stuttered even on the hack that is WSL

    The only time I have actually gotten X11 to crash was an unrelated kernel panic.

    Also no one uses X11 networking by default lmao, its always X forward over SSH, that is definitely secure and still something wayland can't do.

    [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I see you have never used nVidia cards.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    It's still buttry smooth, you just have to downgrade back to x11 when the Nvidia drivers shit in there hands and claps.

    [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I was referring to crashing X11. That happens all the time with nVidia.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I thought it was hyperbole, that sucks. If your using an Nvidia card from before 2014(kepler) those drivers aren't officially being supported anymore on linux. I'd recommend upgrading, maybe going used if your strapped for cash. 20series and later is getting a lot of love rn so id probably wouldn't go older than 20 series.

    [–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

    Oh, I did upgrade, to AMD card. Since then 0 issues. :D

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