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Should Climate Protesters Be Less Annoying? (newrepublic.com)
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[–] raginghummus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For anyone annoyed by climate activists: wake the hell up. LISTEN to the message.

We are on course for an UNLIVABLE FUTURE. A BILLION climate refugees, mass crop failures, cities under water, temperatures too hot for human survival. Economic and societal collapse.

These disruptions damage nothing and inconvenience a small amount of people for 5-30 minutes. It's not a big deal. In a world of reactionary social media and news, these are the tactics that get attention. It is not the activist's fault for how the media reports it.

This is not "their cause". This is the fight for everything we know and love.

If you don't like what they're doing, start doing what you think works.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

bUt We jUsT wANT to WaTcH tENniS

You’ll get your fucking tennis when we start killing each other for food. Human brains are incapable of comprehending what we are continuing to do to our future. Its so fucking frustrating seeing this society being completely oblivious to the tortures we could’ve avoided by relatively small changes 60 years ago and which we still can lessen by doing something now.

buT iM GoNna gEt a TeSla fOr my NeXt Car

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You won't get anyone not already convinced to listen to your message if the people are hung up on hating what you're doing and thinking you're a moron.

It just seems like a bad way to reach or convince anyone.

[–] raginghummus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not really true, the evidence shows the popularity of the group may go down but concern over the issue goes up.

Tell us a better way that hasn't already been tried, one that's proportional to the urgency. Genuinely open to ideas.

The suffragettes were more than annoying, they blew stuff up and burnt down buildings and they were effective.