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First focusing on AI and now this, already cancelled my donations, do we have a good fork to move to?

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[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not planning to move anywhere tbh.

Mozilla is almost 100% financially dependent on Google right now, if that funding goes away then so will Firefox, the Gecko engine, and likely all the forks. With all the layoffs happening in the industry, we can't rule out Google shareholders looking elsewhere to cut costs too, such as the massive subsidization of Mozilla. The little we can do is allow Mozilla to find other sources of funding that are optional for users IMO

Yes, stuff like pocket is garbage. But at least Mozilla allow you to turn it off, which is more than can be said for Google: on Android devices manufacturers have to pay a hefty "fee" just to allow users to remove the Google search bar from the launcher. As a user you can get around this by installing a custom launcher, but as a manufacturer, you will not get Google certification: no SafetyNet (Play Integrity DRM, required by Banking apps), no Widevine, and Google will block GMS & their other apps on your product.

Regarding AI, mozilla's memorycache is completely local (runs on the user's machine) and does not call out to any servers. The new translation feature is the same. The only exception to this that I'm aware of is the AI helper on MDN, but the target audience of that site is already in a position to determine whether that is a useful feature or not.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I’m not planning to move anywhere tbh.

I do. If they go through with it than they're not much better than Google.

If they don't have enough money maybe they could start with cutting the CEO's pay.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Likening this to the evils of google is such a wildly dishonest take lmao

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago

Why? Do you really think Google started out evil, and not step by step by implementing "improvements" similar to this one?

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 2 points 8 months ago

On the contrary, it's the only comparison you can make, since they are literally the only options.

[–] unreliable@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 8 months ago

already

How considering to show ads and allow to opt out is worse that google? Have you watch Youtube?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I haven't read through the issue, but so far all of Mozilla's endeavours into ads have been stellar privacy-wise.

And their CEO stepped back a few weeks ago. It's well possible that the intermediary/new CEO won't get as much payment, because losing them to a competitor will not hurt as badly.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

this need to start from inside the company, lile the employers timing a walkout of something, other than that everything gonna stay the same