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The investigation is tied to an incident on an Alaska Airlines flight in early January. Boeing also told a Senate panel that it cannot find a record of the work done on the Alaska plane.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (15 children)

Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be. It's just the bog standard corporate pursuit of profit at the expense of all else. Cutting corners, ignoring safety, rushing everything, and all with fewer people to do the work than are necessary. If Boeing is found criminally guilty for that half the corporations in the US are in trouble.

No, this is just political theater, much like the TSA is. Boeing has fucked up enough that people are starting to take notice, so this is just a little reminder to them that they need to stop fucking up quite so publicly. The executives will sweat a little, temporarily improve things, and then go right back to their usual bullshit in a year or two when things calm down. Worst case scenario they'll put out a series of BP style "We're sorry" videos where they emphasize how much quality and safety supposedly mean to them.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be.

I doubt that you know whether Boeing has or has not broken any laws.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

OK, well nothing there's anything public about anyway. It's always possible they've been embezzling or I don't know, running a drug smuggling ring out of their warehouses, but nothing they've probably done is illegal. Remember this is all just a response to the multiple accidents related to manufacturing defects in their planes. At this moment the worst charge they're looking at is maybe criminal negligence.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cover up is where I'd put money. Supplying a federal agency with falsified documents or otherwise lying would start getting into criminal territory. Though I agree that we, the public, have no evidence of that.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He didn’t say illegal, he said criminal.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're being investigated under "Conspiracy to Defraud the United States", which does have criminal penalties.

Now, that's a prison sentence of up to 5 years. People died because of the decisions by Boeing executives, and countless others were put at risk. There should be a whole lot more here that they should be charged with, but probably won't.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And when was the last time that the US sent to jail anybody in the C-suite of a major US company?

In the US (and not only) the Law might be on the book but it's most definitelly selectivelly applied and all we've seen when it comes to the top people in such "too big to fail" companies is settlements with no admission of guilt.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree. I also think people should present the VW Diesel Emissions scandal accurately.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Oh yeah, that stuff was a complete total disgrace and partly why I wrote "In the US (and not only)".

Protecting C-suite types in big companies is almost always how things work in Western Nations, even the supposedly more honest ones.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

What is your point?

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