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    [–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    You just don’t notice what doesn’t work, like video decoding in your browser. You probably didn’t use a laptop with hybrid graphics. And you might not use GNOME, which has defaulted to wayland which was broken for many years. And you might use an outdated kernel so it never broke. And you don’t use software that used modern linux features like dmabuf.

    Its fair to not have this situation but its an easy one to happen.

    [–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Welp. My gnome defaults to X11, and I am using laptop. That said, it does not use hybrid graphics, but honestly only using dedicated card works well enough. That said, fk nvidia. Their greed is overwhelming..

    [–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

    Yes it did fallback to x11 but it was truly a fallback, no developer used x11, features were ignored there, and it was just a worse experience.

    [–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Or you might want to use G-Sync or other forms of VRR on a multimonitor setup, which you can't do under X11 and is broken on Wayland.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Not broken on Wayland just gnome. X11 has its issues but on pretty much every other Wayland desktop gsync works fine. Gsync also works under x11 if all your monitors support the same refresh rate and gsync/freesync.

    Having different refresh rates on different screens never worked on x11 weather you were using AMD or nvidia it just defaults to the lowest refresh rate.

    [–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    It also just landed in gnome.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, I'm glad people in gnome are finally getting it. My mother has gnome on her PC and if she ever plays something modern she'll probably enjoy it.

    [–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    I wish that were the case. It's obviously not a thing at all in Gnome (yet), but from my experience and what others are reporting, VRR is also pretty broken on KDE Wayland for NVIDIA GPUs. It works fine 90% of the time, but at certain loads it starts rendering frames out of order. As far as I can gather this won't change until there's proper esync support across the whole render chain for NVIDIA, starting with the drivers.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    I hate to say it but Hyperland and potentially other wlroots have excellent support for vrr. I'd like to see if gnome does a better job than kde. I think they were one of the first ones to work with Nvidia when it came to gnome.

    I don't know why but the latest version of kde has horrible screen tearing and for right now I'm blaming it on my gsync only monitor.

    [–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Huh, when I first checked out Hyprland under 535 drivers, it was barely working under Wayland, whereas Gnome and KDE worked at least decently well. Might have to check it out again now that some time has passed, although I still hope that the next beta driver will finally fix most things.