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"I think what you're reacting to is that, at the moment, Biden is an unpopular president seeking a second term while Trump is a popular figure inside his party who is winning primary races. I wouldn't necessarily compare the two."

Credit to @JoshuaHolland

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[–] Melkath@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, Bill Clinton bombed the fuck out of Serbia to end the Croatian genocide, and a ton of people supported that.

That sounded right.

Now Biden is sending massive amounts of the public trust to Israel so they can spend that money to buy the ammunition that is committing genocide on Palestine, and the Democrats CENSURED a Democrat who dissented.

My viewpoint isn't pro-Palestine. My viewpoint is con-genocide. And the 2 party system rang true when Reds wanted slaughter and Blues wanted peace.

Now that Dems want genocide, I have no party. We need something else.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Biden's too far right for you so you miss Clinton? Do you know what happened to the Democratic party's general alignment, in the years that came between Carter and Obama?

And the 2 party system rang true when Reds wanted slaughter and Blues wanted peace.

You know Trump says we should just kill them all, right?

I mean... in fairness, I read a bunch of this thinking through what to write here, and (a) it just made me real real sad (b) I do genuinely think Clinton wanted genuine peace in the middle east. The thing is, he sent billions of dollars of weapons every year too. The stuff you're complaining about Biden doing, Clinton was doing too. Clinton's attitude was if we just get together and talk, maybe we can work it out. I won't say that's wrong. IDK. Like I say, I read up that little summary and it just made me real sad.

All I can really say is that domestically, Clinton pulled the whole party real real far to the right, and Biden is pulling it significantly to the left as compared with the Obama and Hilary positioning.

Democrats CENSURED a Democrat who dissented.

They censured her because she said "from the river to the sea."

Do you know what would have happened to an American congresswoman who said that in the mid-1990s Democratic party?

Now that Dems want genocide, I have no party. We need something else.

This idea that Biden wants what's happening in the middle east right now is absolutely nuts to me. Why do you think he wants that?

I get criticizing him because we're still sending weapons (or trying to). Why do you think he wants this to be happening, though?

(Edit: Oh, also there's this. Not that I think a return to the status quo is all that great a thing, but definitely better than what it was before he came in, yes.)

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Beautiful 'I know I'm voting for Baal, but I'm not voting for Diablo" logic.

This country needs more than 2 parties.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not planning on addressing anything I actually said? I asked a few questions, and Biden isn’t Baal or Diablo, although that is a quippy stock response you can throw to avoid continuing the conversation.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I read it all.

Your mental gymnastics are FANTASTIC!

I responded to your comment.

How does it feel to be Blue MAGA?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 8 months ago

Ah.

I call this one the “Mission Accomplished.” Simply declare that the discussion is over, because you’ve already won.

Welp. Have a good night, then.