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[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

When a school professor "prompts" you to write an essay and you, the "tool" go consume copyrighted material and plagiarize it in the production of your essay is the infringement made by the professor?

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If you quote the sources and write it with your own words I believe it isn't, AFAIK "AI" already do that.

[–] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

Copilot lists its sources. The problem is half of them are completely made up and if you click on the links they take you to the wrong pages

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It definitely does not cite sources and use it's own words in all cases - especially in visual media generation.

And in the proposed scenario I did write the student plagiarizes the copyrighted material.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So your question is "is plagiarism plagiarism"?

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago

No, that is not the question nor a reasonable interpretation of it.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

If you read a book or watch a movie and get inspired by it to create something new and different, it's plagiarism and copyright infringement?

If that were the case the majority of stuff nowadays it's plagiarism and copyright infringement, I mean generally people get inspired by someone or something.

[–] buffaloseven@fedia.io 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There’s a long history of this and you might find some helpful information in looking at “transformative use” of copyrighted materials. Google Books is a famous case where the technology company won the lawsuit.

The real problem is that LLMs constantly spit out copyrighted material verbatim. That’s not transformative. And it’s a near-impossible problem to solve while maintaining the utility. Because these things aren’t actually AI, they’re just monstrous statistical correlation databases generated from an enormous data set.

Much of the utility from them will become targeted applications where the training comes from public/owned datasets. I don’t think the copyright case is going to end well for these companies…or at least they’re going to have to gradually chisel away parts of their training data, which will have an outsized impact as more and more AI generated material finds its way into the training data sets.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How constantly does it spit out copyrighted material? Is there data on that?

[–] buffaloseven@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago

There's more and more research starting to happen on it, but I've seen anywhere from 20% to 60% of responses. Here's a recent study where they explicitly try to coerce LLMs to break copyright: https://www.patronus.ai/blog/introducing-copyright-catcher

I don't have the time to grab them right now, but in many of the lawsuits brought forward against companies developing LLMs, their openings contain some statistics gathered on how frequently they infringed by returning copyrighted material.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You do realize that AI is just a marketing term, right? None of these models learn, have intelligence or create truly original work. As a matter of fact, if people don't continue to create original content, these models would stagnate or enter a feedback loop that would poison themselves with their own erroneous responses.

AIs don't think. They copy with extra steps.