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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"After years of pushing their proprietary and closed solutions to privacy minded people Proton decided that it was in their best interest to further bury said users into their service as a form of vendor lock-in. To achieve this they made more non-standard desktop clients for their groupware features (contacts and calendars) and the bridge will be discontinued soon."

Only if there wasn't CardDAV, CalDAV, IMAP, SMTP and dozens of other highly standardized protocols to handle e-mailing and groupware.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is the bridge actually being discontinued? People have been saying that a lot recently but I've not seen any evidence for it, and not in the linked article.

I'm annoyed that they don't support SMTP, but realistically they actually can't unless they have the ability to read your email, which they don't.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Is the bridge actually being discontinued?

No, but what from their moves it is very clear it won't live long.

they don’t support SMTP, but realistically they actually can’t unless they have the ability to read your emai

Technically they do use SMTP... and it's possible for a provider and provide submission and generic SMTP do clients without having to read the email content.

There are lots of ways to do e2e encryption on e-mail (no server access to the contents) over SMTP (OpenPGP, S/MIME etc.). There are also header minimization options to prevent metadata leakage. And Proton decided NOT to use any of those proven solutions (in a standard and open way at least) and go for some obscure implementation instead because it fits their business better and makes development faster.

[–] philpo@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

Because with proven concepts the swiss intelligence services would be locked out. And now people have to trust their claims of "swiss privacy laws" (who are shit - the worst in Central Europe. Switzerland had multiple scandals, from a system that had intelligence files on a large percentage of their "unreliable" citizens as part of the "Fichenskandal" to them recently admitting that most internet traffic within and all traffic leaving and entering Switzerland is monitored by the swiss intelligence services - without so much as a judges permit). Yeah, I know, they are audited....But since Snowden we all know how much that is worth.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 1 points 8 months ago

The minute they discontinue Proton Bridge is the minute I cancel my subscription with them and change mail providers. No one is prying my beloved Thunderbird from me