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    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    just ask your fellow yarr friends whether there are "open source" gun designs. I'm sure they'll give you a bit of a rough time for the question, and then immediately point you to the materials required to make illegal guns.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Legal mostly, a few states ban them but not many. Just can't sell em, that one is federal. The "illegal" part comes in if the person themselves isn't legally allowed to own them because of age or criminal history.

    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    that's interesting, i figured due to serialization that there would be some legal basis to owning a 3d printed gun, unless that applies here.

    The rest checks out though.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    They don't have to be serialized unless you sell them (for a living, and have a manufacturer's license, hobbyists kinda just can't sell guns they make.) Or if you take them into a gun shop to be worked on, then they have to serialize it.

    There's like 6 states that have harsher laws than federal on them, I think in those states they have to be serialized, I don't think they can stop you from making one though, but all other laws apply too so it kinda ends up being a "you can but really not" type thing.

    But even then, even in states where it has to be serialized, the only way they'd ever know someone had an unserialized one is if someone was caught in a crime with one or defended themselves with one, and imo crime is already illegal but defense being criminalized because of the lack of a few letters stamped on is dumb, and it really just gives the police another excuse to "crack down" on minorities (as if they need another reason for what seems to be their occupational pastime.)

    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    interesting, i suppose that makes sense. One would think they would be more heavily restricted, but i suppose that's expecting too much from governmental bureaucracy lol.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I mean tbh technology has exploded in the last like, 15yr, it didn't used to be this easy to make em this good. Always been able to make pipe shotguns easily though, but better guns required a bit more skill and it was more niche/rare.

    Also they kinda can't stop it, both due to the second amendment binding them and physical impossibility, for instance the guy who invented the LutySMG, P. A. Luty, is (was?) a british citizen. Sure they got him, because he published two books on how to make his guns in protest of the UK gun laws, but his designs live on, and could be reproduced by anyone so inclined over there.

    yeah, im not surprised frankly, but one would think that in some capacity, by nature, they would be illegal. Given the regulation surrounding it. I always knew pipe shotguns were technically legal. It's never been a particularly good idea though. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out going forward though. Wouldn't surprise me if something like that did happen tbh.

    [–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

    Back in the day the shit shovel ak was a popular guide.