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Without planning, all that we end up building is just more unsustainable sprawl. Getting serious about housing means getting serious about infill development and investing in active and mass transit.
It means a huge number of things: building schools, community centres, sewers, etc. And yes, transit and density need to be in the mix.
The key raised by OP (oh hey! that's me!) is that our politicians aren't allocating funds for any of those things. Housing is just the tip of the melting iceberg.
Canada has a mind-boggling planning deficit. Our governments are showing incredible incompetence at figuring out what we need before we need them. That's why we're in the housing crisis, the healthcare crisis, etc.
I completely π― % agree about the need for more planning. We might be not agreeing entirely on the direction. Transit and mixed use density are not just in the mix, they should be the mix. Suburban, car centric sprawl is not just not-a-solution, it is creating financial problems for the future.
I'm cool with the direction. I just want to highlight that the planning deficit covers more than housing crisis, it includes the lack of healthcare workers, etc. Basically all government responsibilities.
Just to troll: I'd be more confident about the future if politicians could plan in a bad direction. I don't want suburban sprawl either, but if our governments could plan a sprawl properly (enough sewers, schools, grocery stores, community centres, not in a flood plane), then we'd have a chance. Because we just need to change the direction of planning.
But we don't even do that right. Politicians just do random shit and hope it gets them elected. They don't even bother to get their shitty sprawl plans working properly.
But yes. More transit and density. π
I think the Liberal party is ideologically the "the lack of plan is the plan" party. The market is supposed to magically sort itself out in their heads.
Lol as if the Canadian Construction Association wants infill. Their members are responsible for the municipal lobbying that leads to sprawl in the first place, and I all but guarantee you their infrastructure cost estimates are assuming traditional suburban residential growth
So sure, this person may have a point in that supportive infrastructure is not being adequately accounted for. But I don't believe for a second that they're interested in what's actually best for Canadians.
Talking with many people, they just cant fathom living anywhere but an isolated single family home where they depend on their SUV to do anything. As someone who lives in an apartment in a relatively dense area, I feel more free than ever being able to walk to almost any need i have.
A huge part of that is affordability and the availability of services. We started out in a downtown apartment, and it was fine. There were lots of playgrounds for our kids, and we could afford it.
As the playgrounds began to get more and more drug paraphernalia, and we were told we needed two home working spaces, downtown became less workable. A downtown apartment/house with enough room is 500k+ more expensive than one in the burbs.
As our kids are older, there's less for them to do in downtown neighbourhoods that just have restaurants, coffee shops, gyms, and playgrounds aimed at toddlers. No sports fields, bookshops, swimming pools, comic book shops, bike paths, museums, or other kid -friendly places. Downtown housing that we can afford doesn't have room for kids' amenities and work space.
So we need to move. Not because we want to, but because planning has built downtown neighbourhoods that are unfriendly to families.
100% agree and I have been saying this for sometime myself, we need to make north america cities more family focused. COVID made it more visible that no one actually lived in cities.
Most restaurants closed for example, restaurants that you thought were "community focused" were actually only serving commuters into the cities. Nothing was "keeping" people in the surrounding area, no families, no roots.
North america cities for some reason are designed for commuters instead of the people that actually live there. On top of that most new condos and developments are geared to investment properties, meaning small units maybe max 2 bedrooms.
You can't raise two kids in a two bedroom unit. And if you happen to find a three or four bedroom in the downtown core it's priced substantially higher for lower square footage than a single family home in the suburbs.
It's nice to meet a kindred soul.
Is a great example of the problem. We don't have communities.
Again, this. My desired city has townhouses that cost $1.5 million downtown. They're nice, but they don't have the space or amenities that a $900k house in the burbs. I want to live in a dense, walkable community, but I'm priced out.
Most people tell me they could never do it, everyone asks me how I survive the city center crime, and a common question is if I plan to move when I decide to have kids.