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[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

I don't know why anyone is using youtube directly when they can use Newpipe or Freetube. No ads, sponsorblock and even the ability to automatically skip intros, recaps etc On top of that no google account tracking or algorithms.

Edit: Adding "libretube" as well based on some of the replies to this comment.

[–] freebread@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I would love to but I mainly watch YouTube and other video content on my living room TV. That's probably a barrier for a lot of us.

[–] 1371113@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

This is it for me. Easier to get YouTube family thing and now my family doesn’t have ads and doesn’t have to root a phone to install the other apps. If it was just me, sure. I have another 4 people in my life that are hard work when it comes to tech and I have other things to do with my time.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

I use Newpipe on an Nvidia shield in my living room.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you have some kind of Android TV device you can probably install SmartTube to have no ads and sponsorblock: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTubeNext

Or Playlet on Roku.

[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Because the average person doesn't have a clue and they never think about this kind of thing. I've been called a conspiracy theorist by my own father as well as othesr for mentioning Snowden revalatins and using a VPN and all the privacy steps I take on the web.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

After all Snowdon went through, it pisses me off when people say you're a conspiracy theorist just by citing the reporting that came from the whistle he blew

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Propaganda worked on those people. I remember the news back then, it all focused on Snowden himself, rather than the revelations. Lots and lots of FUD in the opinion shows, all the talking heads were spending the bulk of their time opining on him, instead

Like the fact he left the us to escape prosecution, his landing in Russia. Remember they even tracked down his girlfriend or something ridiculous? I know I'm forgetting some of it. Anyway all that crap was designed to shift people's focus away from looking into his proof, and towards doubting the intentions of the person providing it. And boy, did it.

It worked, on a lot of people.

I still hear folks call him a traitor to this day, and they always parrot the FUD talking points i remember from back then to a T.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Forgive me if you already know this but VPNs are just someone else's computer. It's good for preventing your ISP from snooping but you give that visibility to whoever operates the VPN so you're definitely trusting them not to be malicious.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

Wao, this push against VPNs is getting ridiculous. We're all well aware that most VPNs are not private. But using a VPN has it's advantages. Geoblocked media, ISP snooping, and many other things you can circumvent. Not all VPNs are private, and even those we believe to be private, most users have to subscribe over trust alone, as we have no way of knowing if they really are or if what they describe as how they operate is true or not. But using a VPN sure beats just leaving your browsing visible to your ISP and local government.

[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well aware. And I trust Proton more than my local ISP.

Love me some proton

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Its someone else's computer, but where your traffic is mixed with a ton of other people's traffic coming out of that computer. Essentially you're mixing your traffic with others. And youre often coming out of another countey with better privacy laws thsn your country. That has value in a number of ways.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

My mom uses YouTube - she’s 80. My son uses YouTube- he’s 8. This is the internet now.

The open source, privacy evangelist types, who root their phones and self host nextcloud are a tiny minority.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

After hearing about Freetube, I finally set it up and was all on board, got it configured and then was deflated to see it apparently has no queue function? I use that feature on YouTube so much that I just had to stop using it pretty much immediately.

If I somehow overlooked that or it comes in a later development stage, I’d happily move to it exclusively.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is a bit missing with auto discovery on these frontends, which makes sense...if it doesn't track what you watch, it can't recommend things. Most have related videos though, so you're not just stuck with your subscriptions.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Think you meant this for someone else. I see lack of suggestion algos as a good thing.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

Oh, I think I misunderstood what you meant by queue function. I get it now, the ability to pick a bunch of videos and have them play through, not a recommendations queue.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

FYI Queue/OnTheFly Playlists are already in the Feature Request list according to github, pog

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Excellent, thanks for the heads up. Can’t wait to ditch the site.

[–] far_university1990@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

Playlist PR Quick Bookmark PR

Already merged, probably in next major version.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 7 months ago

I use NewPipe for this. Its great for queuing up music

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Either because they've never heard of it, they think it's difficult to set up, or they think it's less polished or reliable.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd go with "because they've never heard of it". It's no more difficult to setup than any other application. See the download page.

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, it's not, they just think it is. I have personal experience of this.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying it's not easy to install? If so, what's the difficulty?

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying it is easy to install, but people think it isn't.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, not sure what can be done to improve that. Installation methods are only a click away 🤷

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[–] Trincapinones@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Not having a home page where I get new content based on what I watch is a pretty strong point, the mayority of people find new channels based on that

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

This is where I differ. I think the algos and video recommendations are manipulative. I simply watch whatever is new from my subscribed channels and occasionally something from the related video section. Even if cared about recommendations there is no way I would value it more than the other benefits.

All that being said check out Libretube. I think it has the recommendations on the homepage.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Perhaps, but there are often related videos which provide a similar sort of discovery. One of the main points of these frontends is that they don't track what you watch. If they don't do that, they can't recommend videos.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 7 months ago

Dunno, I prefer Lemmy comms for that

[–] progettarsi@feddit.it 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no suggestions, horrible ui and ux

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Try libretube. It's more UX-y. I personally like the simplicity of Newpipe but I can get why it's not for everyone.

[–] progettarsi@feddit.it 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and for suggestions? i want an homepage that welcomes me when i open the app, that says you could watch this or that, continue watching this or maybe u would like this other one

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] progettarsi@feddit.it 2 points 7 months ago

last time i checked it didn't have that