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submitted 8 months ago by CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

A lot to unpack here...

include all forms of imperialism

Being mainly concerned with global economic imperialism does not imply acceptance for more traditional imperialism.

reflect their values

Instances are independent and federated, hence do not need to reflect the values of the project as a whole in any way. These properties of decentralization are the values of Lemmy.

I've seen the rest of your claims before and you have been asked to present any facts contributing to them elsewhere. Seeing that you still have not responded to them, I will refrain from discussing it in depth for the time being.

I get the impression that your bar for "evidence" are lowered due to some personal experience. To actually engage on a point you made, modlogs have been a mess for a while and there are good reasons not to federate all details of content moderated (such as child porn). It seems weird to me that you contribute this to an agenda of the devs trying to control other instances when they were the ones that gave the other instances their independence in the first place. These actions also do not further any such agenda in a meaningful way. The much simpler and probable explanation is that engineering stuff like this is hard.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago

It's extremely easy to see that the modlog on .ml specifically doesn't match the modlog on other instances, and for issues which have nothing to do with csam. This whole dismissal of it "being a mess" is a pretty convenient excuse for the people who are literally implementing these features. We also know that they never seem to show any admin actions, though this could be attributed to them using alts to moderate. Still kind of shady, but I guess marginally less so.

If .ml admins would care the explain why their build sure seems to behave differently in a few key areas, then it would go a long way towards assuaging these fears. Or perhaps, if they took concerns about their heavy handed moderation more seriously, they would indeed get the benefit of the doubt in regards to their broader intentions.