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[–] livus@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago (12 children)

Once that happens, Palestine is done.

Are you arguing that the US is protecting Palestinians?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago (11 children)

The US has been pressuring Israel to spare civilians since before they went into Gaza. That's just reality. They haven't followed the disastrous strategies that critics have demanded for exactly the reasons I explained.

Netanyaho is a far right maniac who's popularity was based entirely on national security and who was facing multiple criminal allegations. There was no way that he wasn't going to go hard into Gaza. The US could have pulled all aid and weapons deals on day one, and it wouldn't have changed a damn thing - except that Israel would now be a Russian satellite state.

Ramping pressure over time is/was the best available strategy. That doesn't mean I think the US did everything right. That doesn't mean that Biden's personal positions on Israel aren't deeply troubling.

I'll say it again. You got exactly the resolution you were demanding, and exactly the result that people like me said you would get from it. Take the L and learn something.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ramping pressure over time is/was the best available strategy.

I don't see it working. Pressure only matters when there's real leverage at play, otherwise you get the current mess.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

You might be absolutely right. All I'm talking about is maximizing the leverage the US has. That's no guarantee that it's enough leverage to control Netanyaho.

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