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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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More people care about climate change than you think | The majority of people in every country support action on climate, but the public consistently underestimates this share. (ourworldindata.org)
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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is true for a lot of things, but I don't think it holds for climate change. The people you're talking about gain money by selling products and services to the common people, who want them for one reason or another. As long as those products and services exist, who owns them doesn't contribute much to climate change. For example even if Amazon became a worker co-op tomorrow I don't see how there'd be a fundamental effect on their contribution to climate change.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Same day delivery is not a significant factor in anyone's quality of life. We can slow down society to a human pace, and people's lives will get better. We can ban cars, and people's lives will get better.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean yes but the factor here is same day delivery and cars, not who owns them (setting aside how owners of these services have an incentive to encourage their use).

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think ownership was the point of the comment you replied to. I think the point was either taxing or eating the rich.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean true enough, but unless those taxes are then used to combat climate change it won't accomplish much (and even then climate change isn't the kind of problem that goes away if you throw money at it). What I'm trying to say is: We should be taking rich people's money, but there's not much relation between rich people being rich and climate change.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Oh that's a good point. I don't think that's what they were talking about, but yeah you got me there.