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[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Beeper breaks e2e. Only use it with caution

Edit: I don't want to discredit beeper, it's just what it is. As long as you know what you do, e.g. no nudes, everything is fine - it's still matrix.

[–] thomcat@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago

Beeper bridges break E2EE. Encrypted Beeper <-> Matrix messages remain encrypted.

[–] Elegast@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it though? Not seeing anything about it

[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Display Name@lemmy.ml is right, confirmed via their official FAQs: https://www.beeper.com/faq#how-does-beeper-connect-to-encrypted-chat-networks-like-imessage-signal-whatsapp

When sending and receiving Signal, iMessage and WhatsApp messages, Beeper's web service acts as a relay. For example, if you send a message from Beeper to a friend on WhatsApp, the message is encrypted on your Beeper client, sent to the Beeper web service, which decrypts and re-encrypts the message with WhatsApp's proprietary encryption protocol.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know how tech savy you are but I selfhost Matrix and almost exclusively use bridges to talk with friends. I feel comfortable breaking e2e on a system I control and the all-in-one-place messaging is pretty sweet, like Pidgin used to be.

If you are already comfortable self-hosting other services, Matrix doesn't really impose any additional complexity IMO and the bridges I use seem to be very stable.

[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That's an interesting idea. I self host a bunch of things, but I don't think I'd wanna go through the trouble here. Maybe some day I might explore it.

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, you may read more here https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/ or https://docs.mau.fi/bridges/general/end-to-bridge-encryption.html as an example. This has to happen first for e2e arewemlsyet.com/

[–] Elegast@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I updated the comment with three links in total. The last link is the most important one I guess

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm seeing one link and the start of a second

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Https://arewemlsyet.com