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[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Meta: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/, https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1320040111, https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-facebook-files-11631713039

Instance admins: Let's give them a chance guyyyyss!!

Those of you who think the problem is data scraping or whatever are totally missing the point. All profit-motivated social media platforms engage in promoting hate content for engagement, and in doing so have deadly real world consequences. The Fediverse is one of the few online spaces where people can just be themselves naturally without being manipulated by algorithms. Given their history, there's no reason to assume Threads won't be any better about handling their own community, and anything that happens with them will affect the rest of us.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

for real. im new to lemmy but places like hexbear seem really good for trans stuff. i hate how so many trans places are dependent upon facebook or reddit to exist. facebook itself is problematic because those fuckers already assisted a genocide in myanmar, whats to stop them from helping to massacre trans people here?

[–] Apollo42@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hexbear is definitely a good place for trans stuff, its just a shame about all of the authoritarians.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

youre starting to really sell me on it

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

There is a spectre haunting Lemmy hexbear-specter

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

hexbear seem really good for trans stuff.

HB and blahj are the two explicitly pro-trans instances. Hexbear is strongly oriented towards communism but I would strongly suggest them over blahj just because of their abysmal handling of c/196's noncery. They just don't have as strong of a track record as hexbear.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

hexbear seems way more active in the trans spaces at least. its also nice seeing everyones pronouns and being able to guess what variant of transness someone is talking about when theyre describing their experiences.

im on lemmy cause i saw advice saying that you could access pretty much all the lgbt spots on the fediverse from here, which seems true. ive already seen a bunch of transphobic bullshit on this site and on blahaj so maybe ill just swap to hexbear, idk

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah you should make the jump if not seeing transphobia is your goal. lemmyML is a great omni-instance but as a result you're going to be exposed to a lot of right-wing bullshit. And really, transphobia on blahj? That's extremely disappointing but not all that surprising.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

yeah one of the top trans posts the other day was filled with transphobes and people debating the merits of transphobia. i think blahaj doesnt have very active modding?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We aggressively remove transphobic/transmisic posts/comments on lemmy.ml. Please report any that you see. But understand that we don’t control the content of other Lemmy instances, so when you select “All” instead of “Subscribed” or “Local,” it’s the wild west.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

i guess the question is more of bans and not just removals. for instance this guy https://lemmy.ml/comment/9833425 seems to regularly go on to write misogynistic and queerphobic screeds, but seems to not have been banned because he is a moderator and has been here for 4 years?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He’s gotten some temporary bans as well as post/comment removals. Omega_haxor is right about hexbear: it’s explicitly socialist, unlike lemmy.ml, and it’s even more explicitly supportive / aggressively protective of the trans community. Several of the largest instances have defederated from hexbear, so for better or worse, access is more limited.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

my thing is this guy is a clear misogynist, hes discussed his misogyny for 4 years now. you dont have to be a socialist to think thats unacceptable. are the rules simply never enforced with bans?

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no answer? alright jotting that down... ✏

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay, let me know how this passive-aggressive pressure tactic works out, person who just just got here. I’ve given you my answer.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

getting all defensive about keeping misogynists around? maybe just ban the misogynist? doesnt take someone being new to realize that youre just inviting reactionaries that will drive people off the service, i had this whole interaction and understanding within three fucking days. people come here to leave reddit, not to find more redditors

i asked, and you did not answer, do you actually enforce your rules with permanent bans? what causes someone to be worthy of a permanent ban? do you simply just like this guy and go to bat for him?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not going to take the time to dispel your presumptions nor explain myself, my motivations, or this Lemmy instance. I’ll just say that I’m not convening a grand jury trial and constitutional convention because one new user (who on first impression is giving Western chauvinism vibes) had one negative interaction with one Global South socialist who has been here over four times longer than me.

Edit to add: Again, please note that this is not an explicitly socialist instance. I won’t elaborate as to why, but it’s no more by accident than the explicitly socialist ones. What is lemmy.ml?

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

who on first impression is giving Western chauvinism vibes

🤣 im a communist, dweeb. you dont have to be a communist to think misogyny is bad, in fact, thats the prevailing opinion almost everywhere. the idea that the global south is in some way inherently reactionary is absurd

all youre giving off is chauvinistic reactionary misogynist vibes. jesus christ this place is a shithole, good luck getting anyone that isnt a white guy and/or a techbro here. all im getting is you got a handful of bigoted buddies that you hang out with and are completely uninterested in introspecting on it

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They do have moderators they just care more about PR-washing than actually protecting their trans base. I would stay away from them.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

for real. im new to lemmy but places like hexbear seem really good for trans stuff.

I am not trans, and so this may be incorrect, but while of course you can use any instance you choose, IIRC it's https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/ that is very explicitly trans-supportive at the instance level. (I'm not saying other instances are transphobic, to be clear)

Edit: I see you've already taken the convo far past the comment I replied to, sorry for not reading ahead!