this post was submitted on 04 Apr 2024
116 points (96.8% liked)

Canada

7203 readers
343 users here now

What's going on Canada?

Communities

🍁 Meta

πŸ—ΊοΈ Provinces / Territories

πŸ™οΈ Cities / Local Communities

πŸ’ SportsHockey

Football (NFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Football (CFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer

πŸ’» Universities

πŸ’΅ Finance / Shopping

πŸ—£οΈ Politics

🍁 Social and Culture

Rules

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage:

https://lemmy.ca

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
otter@lemmy.ca
116
Military vet with young son identified as Canadian killed in Gaza airstrike (www.nelsonstar.com)
submitted 7 months ago by grte@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca
22 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Non-Paywall Article

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yup. In one fell swoop Bibi and the IDF shut down every major food/aid program in Gaza, effectively guaranteeing Gazan starvation. And all for the price of 7 non-Israeli lives.

It was planned.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Which is crazy because I can't see how creating a famine is gonna play well for anyone in Israel. I think using starvation as a weapon is by far the most powerful driver behind the world sentiment moving away from supporting Israel in this conflict. It's an argument that can't be waved away as "we made a mistake."

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think they're trying to kill a large fraction and force the rest across the border to Egypt, so they can take Gaza for themselves. They feel a lot of time pressure so they're doing whatever they can do to get the situation on the ground as bad as possible as quickly as possible. They want to go in and shoot up Rafah but they're under too much pressure to slow-walk that. So cutting off all aid and letting famine "do the job" for them makes sense from their twisted worldview.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alright, but do you see this playing out positively for them longer term? Unless we assume there would be no consequences for Israel. Also I think there are probably going to be bad consequences internally assuming a non-insignificant part of the Israelis come to terms with the atrocity committed in their name. I think that would create a struggle between the fascists and the rest that can go either way. A further descent into fascist militant Zionism along with repression of people and democracy. Or a rejection of the elements and culture that lead to this atrocity.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Alright, but do you see this playing out positively for them longer term?

Israel hasn't been thinking of the longer term at least ever since Palestinians got internet access. That was the beginning of the end for their control over Western public opinion, (edit) and you'd have expected them to learn but nope.

Also I think there are probably going to be bad consequences internally assuming a non-insignificant part of the Israelis come to terms with the atrocity committed in their name.

Don't expect too much. To most Jewish Israelis (which are, let's face it, the only ones that matter) Palestinians are subhuman barbarians whose only purpose in life is to be killed for Lebensraum. And their share of the total population is going up, not down. So yeah, don't expect any soul searching in that department.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

I think just like with USS Liberty the "screwup" was leaving survivors. I think their intent was to kill everyone then blame Hamas, not letting any journos get too close to the burnt out vehicles.