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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not dead, and works fine. I am not disagreeing that it had a serious set-back but that's water down the river.

Also WhatsApp is using a slightly modified version of XMPP, so your argument is a bit funny :)

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s not dead, and works fine.

Also WhatsApp is using a slightly modified version of XMPP

Obviously modified enough to work better with mobile when it launched than Jabber's state of the art back then.

Again: Google did not kill Jabber. Jabber achieved its downfall on its own by being bettered by proprietary services that just worked better on mobile devices BACK THEN.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Google Talk was never Jabber. The Google Jabber integration was way before that in Gmail. Google Talk was what came after Google decided to abandon Jabber.

And yes Google very much held Jabber back by having the largest user-base in their Gmail integration and refusing to even implement SSL for that let alone supporting any other innovations like better mobile support. If Google had actually supported Jabber instead of sabotaging it, we would not have this discussion.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Google Talk was never Jabber. The Google Jabber integration was way before that in Gmail. Google Talk was what came after Google decided to abandon Jabber.

Wikipedia says otherwise.

If Google had actually supported Jabber instead of sabotaging it, we would not have this discussion.

Google kills messaging services all the time and launches new, incompatible ones. Google did not sabotage Jabber, they sabotage their own chat services all the time.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

Wikipedia is not a good source on this. By the time Google's XMPP based messaging product was renamed "Google Talk" it had long ceased to be compatible with the wider Jabber federation.

While I agree that Google does also sabotage their own messengers, it was deeply involved in XMPP specs development and other stuff around the ecosystem in the beginning, and then just quietly began to blockage urgently needed changes as they were unwilling to implement them in their system.

But I guess this discussion has reached the end of being useful as you clearly have a lack of understanding what actually happened back then.