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Cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/12956314

"I push back on doomism because I don’t think it’s justified by the science, and I think it potentially leads us down a path of inaction,” said Mann during a talk last Thursday at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.

“And there are bad actors today who are fanning the flames of climate doomism because they understand that it takes those who are most likely to be on the front lines, advocating for change, and pushes them to the sidelines, which is where polluters and petrostates want them.”

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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (21 children)

“Doomers” don’t think there is literally no way to stop it. They generally think that the people who can pull the lever will continue not to do so because they’ve resisted it for decades. It’s lack of faith in our collective will and dedication to action, not that there is no course of action that can stop it.

I can’t blame them. I still advocate for change and work towards it, but they’re not the problem. It’s climate change deniers and politicians who refuse to do anything about it.

Blame is being misdirected here as usual. Which contributes to why people are “doomers.”

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 15 points 7 months ago (20 children)

You can pulll the lever. That's my point. There are more people who want to stop the climate catastrophe than not.

We are many. They are few. Rise.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 27 points 7 months ago (19 children)

LOL I can't even get people to eat LESS meat and ride bikes. You're utterly delusional.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But people do that more now than they ever have, many individuals do take steps to help the environment. We don't need all the masses to rise, just enough dedicated action from a portion can have massive impact.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Individual decisions are necessary but nearly negligible. Focus your work on the infrastructure of corporations.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago

Definitely, maybe the general cultural shift towards more sustainable practices will help eventually, but when I say 'dedicated action' I don't mean taking shorter showers.

[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One individual action is. Ten thousand are not.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

Ten thousand can also be completely negligible. Protests and marches with far more than 10,000 people happen pretty regularly, and don't change much.

Now, 10,000 people actively removing the biggest polluters is a different story, but so far at least I can't even think of one instance of that happening.

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