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Strength of character. Stength of personality. Willpower. How does it manifest for a woman? Assume that a woman isn't just a man with different bits.

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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Though there aren't many female heroes in history, the few that existed made huge marks.

St. Olga of Kyiv famously slaughtered (!!!) her enemies (the Drevlians) to protect Kyiv and avenge her husband. She then converted to Catholicism and spread the message to the Slavs. And her lineage then founded Moscow. She's considered the reason why Catholicism spread to the East, despite a patriarchy at her time.

But perhaps bloody stories of revenge and the spreading of the good word (a trope of the Middle Ages I know, but she's known for it), is a bit "Just a man with different bits". Still, she was smart, she was cunning, she was ruthless, she conquered, she ruled.


Perhaps a more traditional "Feminine Strength" is St. Joan of Arc, who raised an army and marched with them, though she never really won battle accolades or ruthless terror like St. Olga. St. Joan of Arc comes from humble beginnings and rises to become a leader of a movement in the 100 years war. Despite being tried for being a witch (erm, talking to the Devil? Something like that), she never gave up on her values and is widely recognized as a key figure in her time.

I think Joan of Arc is closer to what the English-speaking world would consider feminine strength. St. Joan of Arc never betrayed anyone, and largely served as an inspiring figure. (As opposed to the cunning St. Olga who has multiple atrocities in her name). She stood her ground as she was tried, and was burned at the stake at the young age of 19. Still, despite her young age, she was a key leader (though not a ruler), who inspired many to fight for France.

In any case, Joan of Arc was confident. She benefited from prophesies that a maiden would come to save France in the hundred years war, and she stepped up to be that role. She traveled across the country raising and inspiring soldiers. She marched into battle (though I don't believe she was ever seen as a warrior or tactician type given her age and small stature), but this grossly improved the morale of the soldiers around her. Women (or really, young girls) like her weren't supposed to be on the front lines like she was. But just arriving to dangerous positions and being confident, and telling everyone that they're cause is righteous and they're doing the right thing is hugely important.

Being around to witness the horrors of war, to tell people that things are alright and they're fighting for the right things. Its... important. People need to know that.

Note that Joan was also on trial for wearing men's clothes. Suggesting that she's an early feminist who did fight for equality centuries earlier than other feminists. Truly ahead of her time.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Though there aren't many female heroes in history, the few that existed made huge marks.

Not in recorded history, anyway.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Katherine Johnson is a personal hero of mine. there's a lot of women who deserve way more credit than they get.

[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

There was also Zheng Yi Sao, a chinese woman who became a pirate who was so unstoppable that she even managed to negotiate her retirement with the Chinese government.