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He revealed the secrets ! (jlai.lu)
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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 161 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Framing libraries as cheat sheets is hilarious

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda fun to think of programming as magic.
And "libraries" as grimoires/tomes .

It's surprising how far you can go with the analogy.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My best comment ever in Reddit was describing Lord of the Rings as programming.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Some time ago:

  • Me: "Programming is fun, but user interfaces are a PITA"
  • CS student: "What!? The algorithms I'm given to solve are really complicated!"
  • After a year on a job: "I hate testing user interfaces..."

Some other day:

  • Me: "Programming is mostly copy&paste"
  • Engineering student: "What!? We have to come up with a new solution for every problem!"
  • After a year on a job: "I don't program anymore, just copy&paste..."

Told ya.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Programming is mostly copy&paste

I don't know what y'all are working on but these comments always scare me ...

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No matter what you work on, programming is one of:

  • Check the documentation for a library, copy&paste the interface call, fill in the blanks.
  • Pick the best algorithm for the case at hand, copy&paste, change a few variable names.
  • Get out your snippets archive, copy&paste the one you need.
  • Write some boilerplate, copy&paste over and over, then fill in the blanks.
  • Look up how someone else solved your problem, replicate it in a way that doesn't look like copy&paste.
  • Once in a blue moon, come up against an actually novel problem, spend some days figuring out the best way to solve it... then copy&paste the solution back into the project.

Doesn't matter what you're working on, in the end it's mostly copy&paste 😂

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I work on compilers (we can't/don't even have access to the C++ standard library in my case)... Most of the time, Google can't help me ⚰️😅

It was definitely a bit more copy and paste when I was working on web applications... But even then, most of the code I was writing was fairly novel / more application and database architecture problems than trying tying libraries together.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What are databases, other than glorified MS Access (¹)? 😜

But seriously, if you're working on compilers, then your "target users" are way different than the average thing: you have actual problems to solve, and can stick to the CLI.

Most copy&paste begins the closer to a GUI you get. Modern web interfaces, have also become a string of libraries and frameworks.

(¹: once upon a time... I tried to explain to a client, why there was no way on Earth to make their in-house MS Access solution compatible with personal data protection requirements for medical data, like 100% access control and logging. I failed... then some years later saw a story about the same problem on Coding Horror; still wonder if it was the same guy who got some other poor soul to try and go through with it, or if it was a more widespread problem at the time when personal data protection laws got enacted)